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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 12:55 pm    Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/30/22Kolb-List  Digest: 1 Msgs |   |  
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				| On 8/2/2022 2:10 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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 One thing I would do different  would be to use a high grade automotive rubber fuel line for the flex line that is inside the tank to the pickup.
 Back when I first built my MKIII, I modded the fuel tank area so I could use two 6 gallon boat tanks, and used the best available green plastic tubing down to the pickup.
 When I built a 15 gallon tank for the center section, I ended up using the two boat tanks to go to the gas station and get/store fuel.
 Last spring I noticed that one of the original plastic lines had broken off and was laying in the bottom of the tank. Granted, that original fuel line install was a long time ago, but still - ya can't beat real fuel line.
 
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 Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
 Kingsport, TN 3TN0
 Even high grade fuel line will degrade, if it isn't rated for in-tank
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 use. The liner is fuel proof, but the jacket isn't. I discovered that
 about 4 years ago, less than a year after restoring a Twinstar. I
 initially set up a 'flop tube' using the common grommet style fuel
 fitting with a short metal tube brazed into the inside end, and the
 common blue urethane hose connecting the fitting to a weighted screened
 pickup. Less than a year after assembling it, the blue urethane tubing
 rotted away at the tank fitting (image attached). When I looked for
 regular fuel hose, I discovered that 'in-tank' (submersible) rated hose
 sold for way over a dollar *per inch*.
 Here's an example from Summit (lots of other examples available):
 https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hly-26-161
 
 That's when I converted the tank to bottom exit....
 
 Charlie
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 1:59 pm    Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/30/22Kolb-List  Digest: 1 Msgs |   |  
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				| I also used what I thought was a good ultralight fuel line. After a few years it got hard and some of it broke. I switched to a good black automotive fuel line (labeled as fuel line on the hose) and never have had any more issues.
Also I have a MKIIIC with flaps. Noticed the flaps were binding a bit so I started looking behind the sound barrier behind my head and found that the cotter pin on one of the castle nuts on one of the bolts holding the flap linkage together was missing and the nut was almost off the bolt. The nut and bolt pass between two tubes that don't have much clearance. I know there was a cotter pin in there when I built it more than 25 years ago. I think over the years the nut must have rubbed against one of the tubes and broken the cotter pin and pushed the cotter pin out of the nut. Maybe the sound barrier material snagged the cotter pin.
 Check your plane over better than I did!
 Rick Neilsen
 Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
 On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 3:12 PM Richard Pike <thegreybaron(at)charter.net (thegreybaron(at)charter.net)> wrote:
 
 
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 One thing I would do different  would be to use a high grade automotive rubber fuel line for the flex line that is inside the tank to the pickup.
 Back when I first built my MKIII, I modded the fuel tank area so I could use two 6 gallon boat tanks, and used the best available green plastic tubing down to the pickup.
 When I built a 15 gallon tank for the center section, I ended up using the two boat tanks to go to the gas station and get/store fuel.
 Last spring I noticed that one of the original plastic lines had broken off and was laying in the bottom of the tank. Granted, that original fuel line install was a long time ago, but still - ya can't beat real fuel line.
 
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 Richard Pike
 Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
 Kingsport, TN 3TN0
 
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