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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:07 am    Post subject: 3 blade props Reply with quote

My two cents worth. I chose the Aerocomposite prop. For weight reduction and for the construction. At Sun & Fun last year I looked at both MT and Aerocomposite. The Aero has much better construction and durability. No wood!! The way the blades are built, you have a much less chance of blade to hub frailer. I also decided on the 2 blade, mainly for speed. The 3 blade is smoother, looks better, takes off a little quicker, but slower in cruise, especially at altitude. I was hoping to make Sun & Fun, but panel will delay me. I will be at OSH.
http://www.aerocomposites.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.viewPage&page_id=1
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:44 am    Post subject: 3 blade props Reply with quote

I too have an Aerocomposite prop for the exact same reasons.  The sales hype says it will be faster than the Hartzel, we will see!
Gary
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:04 am    Post subject: 3 blade props Reply with quote

Thanks Randy! Still hard to believe how well it flies right out of the box. Hope to see some of you other guys around the West this summer.Mark.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject: Re: 3 blade props Reply with quote

jwadejr(at)direcway.com wrote:
My two cents worth. I chose the Aerocomposite prop. For weight reduction and for the construction.
Jim Wade
40383
Wings finished
Cabin & Doors on.?
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Jim,
I'm sure this must have been brought up before, but how does the lighter prop affect W&B? I would think you wouldn't have to add as much balast to the baggage area to make it less nose heavy. I wonder, though, if by shifting the CG effectively further back that it would make it more difficult to stay within the W&B envelope.
Thanks,
Mark


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: 3 blade props Reply with quote

Looks to me like the envelope  is wide enough to handle it very well. I would think the most weight needed would be 25 pounds instead of 50 for solo or two up front. Even when  you load 4 and heavy baggage, I don't think you can get it too far aft.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:05 pm    Post subject: 3 blade props Reply with quote

It’ll sit on its haunches if you load it full seats and full baggage.  We experienced that bouncing across the field at OSH this year, and have a new tail light to show for it.  In fact, if you don’t fill at least one of the front seats before filling the back seats, it likes to take a tail dive when the pilot hits the step.  It’s your plane, but the last thing I want is to shift the CG aft.  Removing weight is a good thing for when you are flying heavy, but I would have to move more weight up front to compensate for the lighter prop in N256H.  This is not a new discussion, of course, but it seems to be a new round of people discussing it.  IMHO, it is easier to add weight to the baggage compartment when flying light than it is taking weight out of the tail when it is heavy.
Jesse Saint
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jesse(at)itecusa.org (jesse(at)itecusa.org)
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I am in Ecuador until May, 2006.  If you have questions regarding I-TEC, please call the office at 352-465-4545.  If you would like to talk to me, please call me at 352-505-1899.  This number won't always be on, but it has voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador.


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Looks to me like the envelope  is wide enough to handle it very well. I would think the most weight needed would be 25 pounds instead of 50 for solo or two up front. Even when  you load 4 and heavy baggage, I don't think you can get it too far aft.

Jim 40383

 

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Jim,

I'm sure this must have been brought up before, but how does the lighter prop affect W&B?  I would think you wouldn't have to add as much balast to the baggage area to make it less nose heavy.  I wonder, though, if by shifting the CG effectively further back that it would make it more difficult to stay within the W&B envelope.

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Mark

 

 

 

 

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:15 pm    Post subject: 3 blade props Reply with quote

I had a Bonanza F33A for a few years and it liked to sit down on its tail if you loaded the rear passengers first.  I learned to deal with it.  Just ask everyone to lean forward.
Mark

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It’ll sit on its haunches if you load it full seats and full baggage.  We experienced that bouncing across the field at OSH this year, and have a new tail light to show for it.  In fact, if you don’t fill at least one of the front seats before filling the back seats, it likes to take a tail dive when the pilot hits the step.  It’s your plane, but the last thing I want is to shift the CG aft.  Removing weight is a good thing for when you are flying heavy, but I would have to move more weight up front to compensate for the lighter prop in N256H.  This is not a new discussion, of course, but it seems to be a new round of people discussing it.  IMHO, it is easier to add weight to the baggage compartment when flying light than it is taking weight out of the tail when it is heavy.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org (jesse(at)itecusa.org)
www.itecusa.org
Fax: 815-377-3694
I am in Ecuador until May, 2006.  If you have questions regarding I-TEC, please call the office at 352-465-4545.  If you would like to talk to me, please call me at 352-505-1899.  This number won't always be on, but it has voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador.


From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Wade
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:34 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: 3 blade props

 
Looks to me like the envelope  is wide enough to handle it very well. I would think the most weight needed would be 25 pounds instead of 50 for solo or two up front. Even when  you load 4 and heavy baggage, I don't think you can get it too far aft.

Jim 40383

 

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:46 pm    Post subject: 3 blade props Reply with quote

Four adults and low fuel will get you past the aft c.g. . . .

TDT
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Looks to me like the envelope is wide enough to handle it very well. I would think the most weight needed would be 25 pounds instead of 50 for solo or two up front. Even when you load 4 and heavy baggage, I don't think you can get it too far aft.
Jim 40383

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: 3 blade props Reply with quote

Tdawson(at)avidyne.com wrote:
Four adults and low fuel will get you past the aft c.g. . . .
TDT
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I like the idea of decreasing the overall weight. If a composite prop is used up front, is there any way to redistribute some of the weight away from the rear to counter the aft cg? The only thing that comes to mind might be repositioning the batteries. If this is even possible, it wouldn't be enough.

Mark


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