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jdalton77(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: Trim cables question

So, after cursing and struggling with the Trim  control cables I finally got them all routed and hooked up.

  

 Now the manual tells me to disassemble the  HS/Tailcone/VS.  Do I have to pull out the cables I routed or did any of  you disconnect them at the trim motor?

  

 Jeff Dalton

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armywrights(at)adelphia.n
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:31 pm Post subject: Trim cables question

After all of my struggling to connect them I left them connected for at least two days so I cold take pictures, but then yes, I disconnected them from the elevators. Left them attached to the trim motor/mount.  

   

Rob Wright  

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So, after cursing and struggling with the Trim control cables I finally got them all routed and hooked up.  

    

   

    

Now the manual tells me to disassemble the HS/Tailcone/VS.  Do I have to pull out the cables I routed or did any of you disconnect them at the trim motor?  

    

   

    

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egohr1

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 38
Location: Oklahoma City

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:53 am Post subject: Re: Trim cables question

Yes, I disconnected them, but before you pull them though tape a piece of heavy wall tygon tubing to the end of the tube.  Leave the tube in the HS as a fish line.  When you go to reinstall the tube the tubing will make the reinstllation mech easier.

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:17 am Post subject: Trim cables question

Great idea Eric.   One thing, for those doing the pre-assembly of the

tail.  There's really not a lot to be gained by installing the trim

mechanism early.  You may as well wait untilvyou get to the step

post-painting where you have to assemble all of the airframe.  I didn't

really find anything necessary that needed to be done early.  If it were

me, I'd just avoid it until later.  You could still assemble the rest of 

the tail so you can cut the intersection fairing though.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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egohr1 wrote:

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 <EGOHR86(at)alumni.carnegiemellon.edu>

 

 Yes, I disconnected them, but before you pull them though tape a

 piece of heavy wall tygon tubing to the end of the tube.  Leave the

 tube in the HS as a fish line.  When you go to reinstall the tube the

 tubing will make the reinstllation mech easier.

 

 -------- eric gohr EGOHR86(at)alumni.carnegiemellon.edu

KiloPapa

Joined: 24 May 2006
Posts: 142
Location: Pearblossom, CA

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:33 am Post subject: Trim cables question

Tim,



Are you speaking of the elevator trim?



Kevin

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tail/empennage



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wvu(at)ameritel.net
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: Trim cables question

Jeff,

 I think there are disadvantages at both ends.  I did mine at the  trim tabs end.  There's not much room at the trim motor end to secure the  cables.  If you have big arms to stick them through that little bulkhead,  you'd have to crawl inside the tailcone to secure the cables at the trim  motor.

 Before you install the rudder for the last time though there are four  nutplates required on the VS spar to secure the emp fairing.  Make sure  those are installed or you'd have to take the rudder off one more time to rivet  the nutplates, or use screw/nut later.

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:01 pm Post subject: Trim cables question

Yep, elevator trim.  I didn't even start to install my actuation until

 >30 days from flight.  No big deal at all.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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KiloPapa wrote:

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 Tim,

 

 Are you speaking of the elevator trim?

 

 Kevin

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johngoodman

Joined: 18 Sep 2006
Posts: 530
Location: GA

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:44 am Post subject: Re: Trim cables question

I'll be at that spot in about a month; thanks for the heads up. For Eric, you mentioned Tygon tubing. Since Tygon is a brand, is there a type of their tubing that's superior, or do you just mean some kind of flexible tubing?

John



 	  Tim(at)MyRV10.com wrote: 	
		  Great idea Eric.   One thing, for those doing the pre-assembly of the

tail.  There's really not a lot to be gained by installing the trim

mechanism early.  You may as well wait untilvyou get to the step

post-painting where you have to assemble all of the airframe.  I didn't

really find anything necessary that needed to be done early.  If it were

me, I'd just avoid it until later.  You could still assemble the rest of 

the tail so you can cut the intersection fairing though.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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egohr1 wrote:

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 <EGOHR86>

 

 Yes, I disconnected them, but before you pull them though tape a

 piece of heavy wall tygon tubing to the end of the tube.  Leave the

 tube in the HS as a fish line.  When you go to reinstall the tube the

 tubing will make the reinstllation mech easier.

 

 -------- eric gohr EGOHR86(at)alumni.carnegiemellon.edu

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: Trim cables question

John, you can use tygon, rubber, poly, electrical wire, a coat hanger,

or anything you want.  The idea is to leave something in there that

you can attach to the end of the cable to pull the cable through.

Ideally, something that fits nice and tight so you can pull with

a little force when needed.  Just try some things...maybe start with

cheap poly tubing, and see what fits over the threaded end well.

You can always add a layer of tape over it to help secure it.  Just

leave something in the stabilizer so pull with or you'll have to

deal with the pain twice.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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johngoodman wrote:

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 I'll be at that spot in about a month; thanks for the heads up. For Eric, you mentioned Tygon tubing. Since Tygon is a brand, is there a type of their tubing that's superior, or do you just mean some kind of flexible tubing?

 John

 Tim(at)MyRV10.com wrote:

> Great idea Eric.   One thing, for those doing the pre-assembly of the

> tail.  There's really not a lot to be gained by installing the trim

> mechanism early.  You may as well wait untilvyou get to the step

> post-painting where you have to assemble all of the airframe.  I didn't

> really find anything necessary that needed to be done early.  If it were

> me, I'd just avoid it until later.  You could still assemble the rest of 

> the tail so you can cut the intersection fairing though.

>

> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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> egohr1 wrote:

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>>  Yes, I disconnected them, but before you pull them though tape a

>>  piece of heavy wall tygon tubing to the end of the tube.  Leave the

>>  tube in the HS as a fish line.  When you go to reinstall the tube the

>>  tubing will make the reinstllation mech easier.

>>  

>>  -------- eric gohr EGOHR86(at)alumni.carnegiemellon.edu

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egohr1

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 38
Location: Oklahoma City

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:42 am Post subject: Re: Trim cables question

Any flexible tubing will work, I used a heavy wall tube that just slides over the threads and a little larger than the platic end of the rod.  This and a little duct tape keep the trim cable from snagging on the snap bushings.



I figured this out after 2 hours of fighting with the first one.  The second took 10 minutes.

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johngoodman

Joined: 18 Sep 2006
Posts: 530
Location: GA

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Trim cables question

 	  Tim(at)MyRV10.com wrote: 	
		  .....  Just try some things...maybe start withcheap poly tubing, and see what fits over the threaded end well.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Tim,

That noise you hear is me slapping my forehead (g). Just something to fish with, but I took it for something special. As my wife says:



"You're not too bright, I like that in a man."



John

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