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ddddsp1(at)juno.com
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 Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject: Door latch and Weld-On for windows |
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Thinking about this door latch issue and WHY the original design is not sufficient for some is interesting. I would be curious to see some of the planes that are having an issue as to whether #1 : The door was fit and mounted well. #2 : Is the interior cloth/leather on the door impacting how it closes PRIOR to finishing it? It seems a lot of the times our modifications to make the plane nicer/attractive changes how the plane was designed to work. We wonder after we get all done why it weighs 90 lbs. more than other RV10's. Just a thought.
Also, I called Vans today to order some K1100-8 nutplates (that they do not send enough of with the kit and 4 more dimpled END LUG nut plates which they send only 2 of), and asked about my out dated Weld-On. The website and catalog says it has a shelf life of 12 months. I was told NO........it is only a 6 month shelf life! Could this be the cause of some of the CRACKING around the windows we are seeing on the RV10? Sure would be nice if Van told people to NOT order the Weld-on until they are ready to use it! I know when we got ours it was already on the shelf for 3 months. Hopes this saves others some trouble.
Anybody wants 5 bottles of Weld-On ...........CHEAP? 
Venting,
Dean 40449
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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:52 pm Post subject: Door latch and Weld-On for windows |
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It is amazing that these chemicals have such a short self life. Why can
McDonalds make hamburger buns last five months on the tray before they get
mold or make meet which can go through ones digestive tract and come out the
other end still looking like the meat patty when it went in? And these
chemicals aren't even made for consumption. Go figure!
I feel your pain. I've got a third right elevator trim tab bonded with an
unproven flexible epoxy. My proseal was out of date.
Leaves one with a dought and it keeps the economy going by forcing people to
spend $$$$$$ to buy only that which the manual says to use.
Yesterdays trailing edge bonding issue comes to mind.
John G
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Subject: Door latch and Weld-On for windows
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:02:52 GMT
Thinking about this door latch issue and WHY the original design is not
sufficient for some is interesting. I would be curious to see some of the
planes that are having an issue as to whether #1 : The door was fit and
mounted well. #2 : Is the interior cloth/leather on the door impacting
how it closes PRIOR to finishing it? It seems a lot of the times our
modifications to make the plane nicer/attractive changes how the plane was
designed to work. We wonder after we get all done why it weighs 90 lbs.
more than other RV10's. Just a thought.
Also, I called Vans today to order some K1100-8 nutplates (that they do
not send enough of with the kit and 4 more dimpled END LUG nut plates which
they send only 2 of), and asked about my out dated Weld-On. The website
and catalog says it has a shelf life of 12 months. I was told NO........it
is only a 6 month shelf life! Could this be the cause of some of the
CRACKING around the windows we are seeing on the RV10? Sure would be nice
if Van told people to NOT order the Weld-on until they are ready to use it!
I know when we got ours it was already on the shelf for 3 months. Hopes
this saves others some trouble.
Anybody wants 5 bottles of Weld-On ...........CHEAP?
Venting,
Dean 40449
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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
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| Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:07 pm Post subject: Door latch and Weld-On for windows |
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Keep your WeldOn in the freezer until you are ready to use it. It will greatly increase the shelf life.
Michael
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Subject: Door latch and Weld-On for windows
Thinking about this door latch issue and WHY the original design is not sufficient for some is interesting. I would be curious to see some of the planes that are having an issue as to whether #1 : The door was fit and mounted well. #2 : Is the interior cloth/leather on the door impacting how it closes PRIOR to finishing it? It seems a lot of the times our modifications to make the plane nicer/attractive changes how the plane was designed to work. We wonder after we get all done why it weighs 90 lbs. more than other RV10's. Just a thought.
Also, I called Vans today to order some K1100-8 nutplates (that they do not send enough of with the kit and 4 more dimpled END LUG nut plates which they send only 2 of), and asked about my out dated Weld-On. The website and catalog says it has a shelf life of 12 months. I was told NO........it is only a 6 month shelf life! Could this be the cause of some of the CRACKING around the windows we are seeing on the RV10? Sure would be nice if Van told people to NOT order the Weld-on until they are ready to use it! I know when we got ours it was already on the shelf for 3 months. Hopes this saves others some trouble.
Anybody wants 5 bottles of Weld-On ...........CHEAP?
Venting,
Dean 40449
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Rick S.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:57 am Post subject: Door latch and Weld-On for windows |
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FWIW,
The "real" shelf life is usually a lot farther out than what's on the label. If I recall, it evolved during product qualifiation for a Mil-Spec. I have some out of date proseal that works fine, cures a bit slower but still cures. I wouldn't use it on the tanks or anything else that could leak. Like Michael said, the fridge works well extend but I was hard pressed to get permission for storage space next to the TV dinners. For you guys with beer fridges in the shop that would not be a factor.
Since my job is directly related to safety I have MSDS sheets for all this crap in my builders log just in case the neighbors kid chews through my Proseal tube or they find me on the floor frothing at the mouth I can either have or leave a clue for the paramedics when they arrive.
You can find out the shelf life of most products on the web and sometimes on the MSDS. Then order you a fresh batch a month out or so.
Just another way to get edumacated during your building process plus it helps eliminate the, "which is safer for you benzene or MEK?" 
Rick S.
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