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ptiller(at)lolacars.com
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 Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:47 am Post subject: Main monowheel tyre |
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Hi,
I've acquired yet more wheels and tyres and so need to decide on one.
Given a choice of the following main mono tyres, which do the 'mono-drivers' on this list recommend?
a. 7.00-6 McCreary Air Trac, 6 ply
b. 8.00-6 Titan Turf Glide, 4 ply (this appears to be identical in appearance and spec to the Carlisle 'Turf Glide' so I guess Carlisle took on the production).
My guess is to stick with the McCreary that has already been recommended. What do others think?
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johnwigney(at)alltel.net
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:35 am Post subject: Main monowheel tyre |
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Hi Phil,
FWIW, I have used a McCreary Air Trac, 7.00-6, 6 ply with very
satisfactory service. Total time is 520 hours over 5 years and
approximately 760 landings. The majority have been on asphalt with just
a few on grass. I keep my tire at 18-20 psi. Higher pressures tend to
make for 'squirelly' landings on asphalt. I will be replacing the tire
with an identical tire when I do my annual in a month or so because of
uniform tread wear. The grooves are still showing but there not much to go.
It is possible that you may have trouble with clearance in the tunnel if
you use a larger tire. Also, I do not think the Turf Glide was designed
for aircraft use and wear may be a problem.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina
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| Quote: | From "flyingphil2" <ptiller(at)lolacars.com>
I've acquired yet more wheels and tyres and so need to decide on one.
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Given a choice of the following main mono tyres, which do the 'mono-drivers' on
this list recommend?
a. 7.00-6 McCreary Air Trac, 6 ply
b. 8.00-6 Titan Turf Glide, 4 ply (this appears to be identical in
appearance and spec to the Carlisle 'Turf Glide' so I guess Carlisle took on
the production).
My guess is to stick with the McCreary that has already been recommended. What
do others think?
*******************
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gcrowder2
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 136
Location: Golden, Colorado USA
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:47 am Post subject: Main monowheel tyre |
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I use the same tire on my EA81 powered mono, very happy with it so far. I
might be
inclined to try a McCreary 8.00 x 6 if I knew it would fit and get a smidgen
more ground
clearance, maybe even allow a 68" prop for more efficiency.
Glenn
| Quote: | From: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney(at)alltel.net>
Reply-To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
To: ptiller(at)lolacars.com, Europa-List <europa-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Main monowheel tyre
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:33:10 -0500
<johnwigney(at)alltel.net>
Hi Phil,
FWIW, I have used a McCreary Air Trac, 7.00-6, 6 ply with very
satisfactory service. Total time is 520 hours over 5 years and
approximately 760 landings. The majority have been on asphalt with just a
few on grass. I keep my tire at 18-20 psi. Higher pressures tend to make
for 'squirelly' landings on asphalt. I will be replacing the tire with an
identical tire when I do my annual in a month or so because of uniform
tread wear. The grooves are still showing but there not much to go.
It is possible that you may have trouble with clearance in the tunnel if
you use a larger tire. Also, I do not think the Turf Glide was designed for
aircraft use and wear may be a problem.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina
*******************
>From "flyingphil2" <ptiller(at)lolacars.com>
I've acquired yet more wheels and tyres and so need to decide on one.
Given a choice of the following main mono tyres, which do the
'mono-drivers' on this list recommend?
a. 7.00-6 McCreary Air Trac, 6 ply
b. 8.00-6 Titan Turf Glide, 4 ply (this appears to be identical in
appearance and spec to the Carlisle 'Turf Glide' so I guess Carlisle took
on the production).
My guess is to stick with the McCreary that has already been recommended.
What do others think? *******************
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96victor(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: Main monowheel tyre |
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Hi Glen
I have a 800 - 6 in my mono. It was a tight fit.
Tom Friedland
On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER <gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com (gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com)> wrote: [quote]--> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" < gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com (gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com)>
I use the same tire on my EA81 powered mono, very happy with it so far. I
might be
inclined to try a McCreary 8.00 x 6 if I knew it would fit and get a smidgen
more ground
clearance, maybe even allow a 68" prop for more efficiency.
Glenn
| Quote: | From: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney(at)alltel.net (johnwigney(at)alltel.net)>
Reply-To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
To: ptiller(at)lolacars.com (ptiller(at)lolacars.com), Europa-List < europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Re: Main monowheel tyre
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:33:10 -0500
--> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney
< johnwigney(at)alltel.net (johnwigney(at)alltel.net)>
Hi Phil,
FWIW, I have used a McCreary Air Trac, 7.00-6, 6 ply with very
satisfactory service. Total time is 520 hours over 5 years and
approximately 760 landings. The majority have been on asphalt with just a
few on grass. I keep my tire at 18-20 psi. Higher pressures tend to make
for 'squirelly' landings on asphalt. I will be replacing the tire with an
identical tire when I do my annual in a month or so because of uniform
tread wear. The grooves are still showing but there not much to go.
It is possible that you may have trouble with clearance in the tunnel if
you use a larger tire. Also, I do not think the Turf Glide was designed for
aircraft use and wear may be a problem.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina
*******************
>From "flyingphil2" < ptiller(at)lolacars.com (ptiller(at)lolacars.com)>
I've acquired yet more wheels and tyres and so need to decide on one.
Given a choice of the following main mono tyres, which do the
'mono-drivers' on this list recommend?
a. 7.00-6 McCreary Air Trac, 6 ply
b. 8.00-6 Titan Turf Glide, 4 ply (this appears to be identical in
appearance and spec to the Carlisle 'Turf Glide' so I guess Carlisle took
>on the production).
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What do others think? *******************
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gcrowder2
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 136
Location: Golden, Colorado USA
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:11 pm Post subject: Main monowheel tyre |
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Hi Tom - What tire pressure do you use and have you experienced any rubbing
on undercarraige components? Did it give you any more prop clearance?
Inquiring minds yada yada!
Glenn
| Quote: | From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor(at)gmail.com>
Reply-To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: Main monowheel tyre
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:01:57 -0800
Hi Glen
I have a 800 - 6 in my mono. It was a tight fit.
Tom Friedland
On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER <gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>I use the same tire on my EA81 powered mono, very happy with it so far. I
>might be
>inclined to try a McCreary 8.00 x 6 if I knew it would fit and get a
>smidgen
>more ground
>clearance, maybe even allow a 68" prop for more efficiency.
>
> Glenn
>
> >From: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney(at)alltel.net>
> >Reply-To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
> >To: ptiller(at)lolacars.com, Europa-List <europa-list(at)matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: Main monowheel tyre
> >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:33:10 -0500
> >
> >
> ><johnwigney(at)alltel.net>
> >
> >Hi Phil,
> >
> >FWIW, I have used a McCreary Air Trac, 7.00-6, 6 ply with very
> >satisfactory service. Total time is 520 hours over 5 years and
> >approximately 760 landings. The majority have been on asphalt with just
>a
> >few on grass. I keep my tire at 18-20 psi. Higher pressures tend to make
> >for 'squirelly' landings on asphalt. I will be replacing the tire with
>an
> >identical tire when I do my annual in a month or so because of uniform
> >tread wear. The grooves are still showing but there not much to go.
> >
> >It is possible that you may have trouble with clearance in the tunnel if
> >you use a larger tire. Also, I do not think the Turf Glide was designed
>for
> >aircraft use and wear may be a problem.
> >
> >Cheers, John
> >
> >N262WF, mono XS, 912S
> >Mooresville, North Carolina
> >
> >*******************
> >
> >>From "flyingphil2" <ptiller(at)lolacars.com>
> >I've acquired yet more wheels and tyres and so need to decide on one.
> >Given a choice of the following main mono tyres, which do the
> >'mono-drivers' on this list recommend?
> >a. 7.00-6 McCreary Air Trac, 6 ply
> >b. 8.00-6 Titan Turf Glide, 4 ply (this appears to be identical
>in
> >appearance and spec to the Carlisle 'Turf Glide' so I guess Carlisle
>took
> >on the production).
> >My guess is to stick with the McCreary that has already been
>recommended.
> >What do others think? *******************
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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96victor(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject: Main monowheel tyre |
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Hi Glen
Hmm, not quite flying yet so can't answer some Q's. No rubbing with retraction. Prop clearance difference? Don't know because I didn't have a prop then but geometry says that it must be increased! Tire pressure? I'll probably start out with about 18psi. Have you other suggestions?
Tom N96V
On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER <gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com (gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com)> wrote: [quote]--> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" < gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com (gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com)>
Hi Tom - What tire pressure do you use and have you experienced any rubbing
on undercarraige components? Did it give you any more prop clearance?
Inquiring minds yada yada!
Glenn
| Quote: | > >
> >Hi Phil,
> >
> >FWIW, I have used a McCreary Air Trac, 7.00-6, 6 ply with very
> >satisfactory service. Total time is 520 hours over 5 years and
> >approximately 760 landings. The majority have been on asphalt with just
>a
> >few on grass. I keep my tire at 18-20 psi. Higher pressures tend to make
> >for 'squirelly' landings on asphalt. I will be replacing the tire with
>an
> >identical tire when I do my annual in a month or so because of uniform
> >tread wear. The grooves are still showing but there not much to go.
> >
> >It is possible that you may have trouble with clearance in the tunnel if
> >you use a larger tire. Also, I do not think the Turf Glide was designed
>for
> >aircraft use and wear may be a problem.
> >
> >Cheers, John
> >
> >N262WF, mono XS, 912S
> >Mooresville, North Carolina
> >
> >*******************
> >
> >>From "flyingphil2" < ptiller(at)lolacars.com (ptiller(at)lolacars.com)>
> >I've acquired yet more wheels and tyres and so need to decide on one.
> >Given a choice of the following main mono tyres, which do the
> >'mono-drivers' on this list recommend?
> >a. 7.00-6 McCreary Air Trac, 6 ply
> >b. 8.00-6 Titan Turf Glide, 4 ply (this appears to be identical
>in
>> >appearance and spec to the Carlisle 'Turf Glide' so I guess Carlisle
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| Quote: | >took
> >on the production).
> >My guess is to stick with the McCreary that has already been
>>recommended.
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| Quote: | > >What do others think? *******************
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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gcrowder2
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 136
Location: Golden, Colorado USA
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: Main monowheel tyre |
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Hi Tom - The mono with the 8.00 x 6 could be slightly easier to land (its
very easy now and
I'm a very low time tail dragger pilot) with a little higher deck angle.
This should allow the a/c to be
more stalled when the main wheel contacts which could reduce the minor
bouncing you get if
you land a little too flat. Its not even a problem now, its just the
technique you learn. If you
find yourself bouncing your landings, you just didn't land with the tail
quite low enough. I rarely
get any bounce at all except maybe in gusty conditions.
Does it look like the tire could contact the landing gear frame in a
slightly sideways landing?
How much clearance is there at 18 psi?
Glenn
| Quote: | From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor(at)gmail.com>
Reply-To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: Main monowheel tyre
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:06:58 -0800
Hi Glen
Hmm, not quite flying yet so can't answer some Q's. No rubbing with
retraction. Prop clearance difference? Don't know because I didn't have a
prop then but geometry says that it must be increased! Tire pressure?
I'll
probably start out with about 18psi. Have you other suggestions?
Tom N96V
On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER <gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>Hi Tom - What tire pressure do you use and have you experienced any
>rubbing
>on undercarraige components? Did it give you any more prop clearance?
>Inquiring minds yada yada!
>
> Glenn
>
> >From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor(at)gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
> >To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Re: Main monowheel tyre
> >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:01:57 -0800
> >
> >Hi Glen
> >
> >I have a 800 - 6 in my mono. It was a tight fit.
> >
> >Tom Friedland
> >
> >
> >On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER <gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
>gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>I use the same tire on my EA81 powered mono, very happy with it so
>far. I
> >>might be
> >>inclined to try a McCreary 8.00 x 6 if I knew it would fit and get a
> >>smidgen
> >>more ground
> >>clearance, maybe even allow a 68" prop for more efficiency.
> >>
> >> Glenn
> >>
> >> >From: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney(at)alltel.net>
> >> >Reply-To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
> >> >To: ptiller(at)lolacars.com, Europa-List <europa-list(at)matronics.com>
> >> >Subject: Re: Main monowheel tyre
> >> >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:33:10 -0500
> >> >
> >> >
> >> ><johnwigney(at)alltel.net>
> >> >
> >> >Hi Phil,
> >> >
> >> >FWIW, I have used a McCreary Air Trac, 7.00-6, 6 ply with very
> >> >satisfactory service. Total time is 520 hours over 5 years and
> >> >approximately 760 landings. The majority have been on asphalt with
>just
> >>a
> >> >few on grass. I keep my tire at 18-20 psi. Higher pressures tend to
>make
> >> >for 'squirelly' landings on asphalt. I will be replacing the tire
>with
> >>an
> >> >identical tire when I do my annual in a month or so because of
>uniform
> >> >tread wear. The grooves are still showing but there not much to go.
> >> >
> >> >It is possible that you may have trouble with clearance in the tunnel
>if
> >> >you use a larger tire. Also, I do not think the Turf Glide was
>designed
> >>for
> >> >aircraft use and wear may be a problem.
> >> >
> >> >Cheers, John
> >> >
> >> >N262WF, mono XS, 912S
> >> >Mooresville, North Carolina
> >> >
> >> >*******************
> >> >
> >> >>From "flyingphil2" <ptiller(at)lolacars.com>
> >> >I've acquired yet more wheels and tyres and so need to decide on one.
> >> >Given a choice of the following main mono tyres, which do the
> >> >'mono-drivers' on this list recommend?
> >> >a. 7.00-6 McCreary Air Trac, 6 ply
> >> >b. 8.00-6 Titan Turf Glide, 4 ply (this appears to be
>identical
> >>in
> >> >appearance and spec to the Carlisle 'Turf Glide' so I guess Carlisle
> >>took
> >> >on the production).
> >> >My guess is to stick with the McCreary that has already been
> >>recommended.
> >> >What do others think? *******************
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>_________________________________________________________________
> >>Get Hilary Duff's homepage with her photos, music, and more.
> >>http://celebrities.live.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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96victor(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: Main monowheel tyre |
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I have over 2000 hours of tailwheel time in Cessna 140s up to DeHavilan Otters and some in a DC 3 but none for 40 years... I am a little aprehensious but will probably be just fine.
There is over an inch of clearance from the tire to the sides of the tunnel so misalined landings should not cause rubbing or binding but they can sure cause other bad things.
Tom
On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER <gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com (gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com)> wrote: [quote]--> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" < gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com (gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com)>
Hi Tom - The mono with the 8.00 x 6 could be slightly easier to land (its
very easy now and
I'm a very low time tail dragger pilot) with a little higher deck angle.
This should allow the a/c to be
more stalled when the main wheel contacts which could reduce the minor
bouncing you get if
you land a little too flat. Its not even a problem now, its just the
technique you learn. If you
find yourself bouncing your landings, you just didn't land with the tail
quite low enough. I rarely
get any bounce at all except maybe in gusty conditions.
Does it look like the tire could contact the landing gear frame in a
slightly sideways landing?
How much clearance is there at 18 psi?
Glenn
| Quote: | From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor(at)gmail.com (96victor(at)gmail.com)>
Reply-To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: Main monowheel tyre
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:06:58 -0800
Hi Glen
Hmm, not quite flying yet so can't answer some Q's. No rubbing with
retraction. Prop clearance difference? Don't know because I didn't have a
prop then but geometry says that it must be increased! Tire pressure?
I'll
probably start out with about 18psi. Have you other suggestions?
Tom N96V
On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER <gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com (gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com) > wrote:
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com (gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com)>
>
>Hi Tom - What tire pressure do you use and have you experienced any
>rubbing
>on undercarraige components? Did it give you any more prop clearance?
>Inquiring minds yada yada!
>
> Glenn
>
> >From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor(at)gmail.com (96victor(at)gmail.com)>
> >Reply-To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
> >To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
> >Subject: Re: Re: Main monowheel tyre
> >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:01:57 -0800
> >
> >Hi Glen
> >
> >I have a 800 - 6 in my mono. It was a tight fit.
> >
> >Tom Friedland
> >
> >
> >On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER < gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com (gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
> >>
> >>--> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" <
>gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com (gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com) >
> >>
> >>
> >>I use the same tire on my EA81 powered mono, very happy with it so
>far. I
> >>might be
> >>inclined to try a McCreary 8.00 x 6 if I knew it would fit and get a
> >>smidgen
> >>more ground
> >>clearance, maybe even allow a 68" prop for more efficiency.
> >>
> >> Glenn
> >>
> >> >From: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney(at)alltel.net (johnwigney(at)alltel.net)>
> >> >Reply-To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
> >> >To: ptiller(at)lolacars.com (ptiller(at)lolacars.com), Europa-List <europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)>
> >> >Subject: Re: Main monowheel tyre
> >> >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:33:10 -0500
> >> >
> >> >--> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney
> >> >< johnwigney(at)alltel.net (johnwigney(at)alltel.net)>
> >> >
> >> >Hi Phil,
> >> >
> >> >FWIW, I have used a McCreary Air Trac, 7.00-6, 6 ply with very
> >> >satisfactory service. Total time is 520 hours over 5 years and
> >> >approximately 760 landings. The majority have been on asphalt with
>just
> >>a
> >> >few on grass. I keep my tire at 18-20 psi. Higher pressures tend to
>make
> >> >for 'squirelly' landings on asphalt. I will be replacing the tire
>with
> >>an
> >> >identical tire when I do my annual in a month or so because of
>uniform
> >> >tread wear. The grooves are still showing but there not much to go.
> >> >
> >> >It is possible that you may have trouble with clearance in the tunnel
>if
> >> >you use a larger tire. Also, I do not think the Turf Glide was
>designed
> >>for
> >> >aircraft use and wear may be a problem.
> >> >
> >> >Cheers, John
> >> >
> >> >N262WF, mono XS, 912S
> >> >Mooresville, North Carolina
> >> >
> >> >*******************
> >> >
> >> >>From "flyingphil2" <ptiller(at)lolacars.com (ptiller(at)lolacars.com)>
> >> >I've acquired yet more wheels and tyres and so need to decide on one.
> >> >Given a choice of the following main mono tyres, which do the
> >> >'mono-drivers' on this list recommend?
> >> >a. 7.00-6 McCreary Air Trac, 6 ply
> >> >b. 8.00-6 Titan Turf Glide, 4 ply (this appears to be
>identical
> >>in
> >> >appearance and spec to the Carlisle 'Turf Glide' so I guess Carlisle
> >>took
> >> >on the production).
> >> >My guess is to stick with the McCreary that has already been
> >>recommended.
> >> >What do others think? *******************
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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Tom
you were obviously very well trained, I would love to have flown a DC3,
a most admirable airplane. You will however need to be very quick on the
pedals with the Europa. It's not like a long wing glider, unless you are
lucky and have the long wings. You need to read its mind and react
before it does then avoid overcontrolling.
Currency is the key, I know I'm not current any more. Last time I tried
a Europa landing on tarmac I ended up essing down the runway. (My
previous landing was 5 years earlier.
Graham
Tom Friedland wrote:
| Quote: | I have over 2000 hours of tailwheel time in Cessna 140s up to DeHavilan
Otters and some in a DC 3 but none for 40 years... I am a little
aprehensious but will probably be just fine.
There is over an inch of clearance from the tire to the sides of the
tunnel so misalined landings should not cause rubbing or binding but
they can sure cause other bad things.
Tom
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gcrowder2
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 136
Location: Golden, Colorado USA
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: Main monowheel tyre |
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Geez Graham, I'm not saying you're wrong but I just can't fathom what
you're referring to.
I did a few swerved landings when I was first training on the mono but
really none since then for several hundred landings. Every time I hear this
stuff I get really tensed up for the next flying session and wait for bad
things to happen but it always floats in like a pussycat with no
theatrics required. Most landings I don't touch the pedals at all, maybe
slight pressures. Maybe you were flying a poor example or I'm flying a very
good example, just makes no sense!
Possibly your a/c was much lighter than mine. I can see where that could
be an explanation.
Glenn
| Quote: | From: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com>
Reply-To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: Main monowheel tyre
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:51:51 +0000
<grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com>
Tom
you were obviously very well trained, I would love to have flown a DC3, a
most admirable airplane. You will however need to be very quick on the
pedals with the Europa. It's not like a long wing glider, unless you are
lucky and have the long wings. You need to read its mind and react before
it does then avoid overcontrolling.
Currency is the key, I know I'm not current any more. Last time I tried a
Europa landing on tarmac I ended up essing down the runway. (My previous
landing was 5 years earlier.
Graham
Tom Friedland wrote:
>I have over 2000 hours of tailwheel time in Cessna 140s up to DeHavilan
>Otters and some in a DC 3 but none for 40 years... I am a little
>aprehensious but will probably be just fine.
> There is over an inch of clearance from the tire to the sides of the
>tunnel so misalined landings should not cause rubbing or binding but they
>can sure cause other bad things.
> Tom
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Kevin Klinefelter
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 11
Location: Bishop CA
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:23 am Post subject: Main monowheel tyre |
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Perhaps Graham is recalling experiences with the original tailwheel
setup as opposed to the XS?
Kevin
GLENN CROWDER wrote:
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<gcrowder2(at)hotmail.com>
Geez Graham, I'm not saying you're wrong but I just can't fathom what
you're referring to.
I did a few swerved landings when I was first training on the mono but
really none since then for several hundred landings. Every time I
hear this stuff I get really tensed up for the next flying session and
wait for bad things to happen but it always floats in like a pussycat
with no
theatrics required. Most landings I don't touch the pedals at all,
maybe slight pressures. Maybe you were flying a poor example or I'm
flying a very good example, just makes no sense!
Possibly your a/c was much lighter than mine. I can see where that
could be an explanation.
Glenn
> From: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com>
> Reply-To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
> To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Re: Main monowheel tyre
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:51:51 +0000
>
>
> <grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com>
>
> Tom
> you were obviously very well trained, I would love to have flown a
> DC3, a most admirable airplane. You will however need to be very
> quick on the pedals with the Europa. It's not like a long wing
> glider, unless you are lucky and have the long wings. You need to
> read its mind and react before it does then avoid overcontrolling.
> Currency is the key, I know I'm not current any more. Last time I
> tried a Europa landing on tarmac I ended up essing down the runway.
> (My previous landing was 5 years earlier.
> Graham
>
> Tom Friedland wrote:
>
>> I have over 2000 hours of tailwheel time in Cessna 140s up to
>> DeHavilan Otters and some in a DC 3 but none for 40 years... I am a
>> little aprehensious but will probably be just fine.
>> There is over an inch of clearance from the tire to the sides of
>> the tunnel so misalined landings should not cause rubbing or binding
>> but they can sure cause other bad things.
>> Tom
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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: Main monowheel tyre |
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kind thought Kevin, but no it was an XS tailwheel. I had 150 hours on
the old tailwheel and never groundlooped it. Did a fair bit of bouncing
though.
Graham
Kevin And Ann Klinefelter wrote:
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Perhaps Graham is recalling experiences with the original tailwheel
setup as opposed to the XS?
Kevin9582005
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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:14 am Post subject: Main monowheel tyre |
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Hi Glenn
I'm never wrong but I'm not always right ?
That particular Classic (with XS tailwheel) was not particularly good, I
must admit but I have found that they are all different, sometimes
surprisingly so.
Europa Monowheels are certainly much less docile on the ground than a
Supercub. You just have to be very quick with your eyes and feet.
I am beginning to slow down a bit, can't drive as well as I used to
since I lost one eye.
Odd but I suspect that the memory devoted to that eye is now not used
which slows down the computer between my ears.
Graham
GLENN CROWDER wrote:
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Geez Graham, I'm not saying you're wrong but I just can't fathom what
you're referring to.
Glenn
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gcrowder2
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 136
Location: Golden, Colorado USA
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: Main monowheel tyre |
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I've heard that Supercubs are very easy. The only other taildraggers I've
had
time in were a brand new Citabria (Adventure) and a Champ. The Champ I
flew was a total snake and I wouldn't fly again if you paid me and the
Citabria was fun but I found myself concentrating much harder than the
Europa.
Somewhat roll instable even well after touch down and had to fly it to a
stop.
One of the wings is always trying to lift.
The mono seems very damped in yaw on the ground and action on the ground
is just
gentle pressures. It does seem to lose some directional stability under 35
mph after
the rudder quits working but just seems to start drifting slightly to the
left or right after
it slows down. I have never had a wing lift after touchdown. Its fun to
taxi at 40 mph
with both outriggers lifting off the ground. Feels like riding a motorcyle
with training
wheels!
Glenn
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Reply-To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: Main monowheel tyre
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:12:54 +0000
<grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com>
Hi Glenn
I'm never wrong but I'm not always right ?
That particular Classic (with XS tailwheel) was not particularly good, I
must admit but I have found that they are all different, sometimes
surprisingly so.
Europa Monowheels are certainly much less docile on the ground than a
Supercub. You just have to be very quick with your eyes and feet.
I am beginning to slow down a bit, can't drive as well as I used to since I
lost one eye.
Odd but I suspect that the memory devoted to that eye is now not used which
slows down the computer between my ears.
Graham
GLENN CROWDER wrote:
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> Geez Graham, I'm not saying you're wrong but I just can't fathom what
>you're referring to.
>
> Glenn
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: Main monowheel tyre |
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Who was it said that taildraggers with toe in were snakes? Toe out is OL
and makes them stable. How do you arrange toe out with a monowheel?
Graham
GLENN CROWDER wrote:
The Champ I
| Quote: | flew was a total snake and I wouldn't fly again if you paid me and the
Citabria was fun but I found myself concentrating much harder than the
Europa.
Somewhat roll instable even well after touch down and had to fly it to
a stop.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:16 pm Post subject: Main monowheel tyre |
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Better yet.........how do you adjust toe-in and toe-out on a Europa trigear?
Garry Stout
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<grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com>
Who was it said that taildraggers with toe in were snakes? Toe out is OL
and makes them stable. How do you arrange toe out with a monowheel?
Graham
GLENN CROWDER wrote:
The Champ I
> flew was a total snake and I wouldn't fly again if you paid me and the
> Citabria was fun but I found myself concentrating much harder than the
> Europa.
> Somewhat roll instable even well after touch down and had to fly it to a
> stop.
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Good question. Get it right first time or Redesign it?
Graham
Garry wrote:
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Better yet.........how do you adjust toe-in and toe-out on a Europa
trigear?
Garry Stout
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h&jeuropa
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Main monowheel tyre |
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We started with the 8.00 - 6 tire (or tyre) that came with the kit. Ran it at 18 psi. After doing max gross weight flight tests (1500 lbs), we noticed that the brake caliper was machining a nice groove in the tire. The tire also rubbed the inside of the swing arm and it was very close in the tunnel ( we had moved the brake master cylinder to get more clearance). So at that time we changed to 7.00 -6 like many others. We think the plane is a little more stable with this tire. Also no problem with the brake caliper hitting at max gross weight.
The plane is easy to land on grass. As Graham can attest, we don't do so well on pavement (major ground loop requiring a lot of repair). Have been flying a Champ lately, and our Europa is not as easy to land as the Champ. You really have to look down the runway and keep it straight.
Jim & Heather
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Kevin Klinefelter
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: Main monowheel tyre |
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How do you arrange toe out with a monowheel? You get a tire with
funny-looking tread!
Kevin
Graham Singleton wrote:
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<grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com>
Who was it said that taildraggers with toe in were snakes? Toe out is
OL and makes them stable. How do you arrange toe out with a monowheel?
Graham
GLENN CROWDER wrote:
The Champ I
> flew was a total snake and I wouldn't fly again if you paid me and the
> Citabria was fun but I found myself concentrating much harder than
> the Europa.
> Somewhat roll instable even well after touch down and had to fly it
> to a stop.
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