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		mikedoble(at)wi.rr.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:03 am    Post subject: Tools to Sell | 
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				All – I’m convinced now that I need a pneumatic squeezer (thanks a lot Dave Leikam…).  
    
 Any of you that are done want to part with yours???  If not, I’ll call Avery or Cleveland Tool.  
    
 Also, there was some discussion a few weeks ago about how to rivet the tail cone skins without wrinkles.  
    
 Does anyone know what mushroom set was suggested for this?  I seem to remember the Cleveland set with rubber guard (not the swivel).  
    
 Mike  
    
 Builder 40691.  Working on my tail……20 hrs so far.  
    
    
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		MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:51 am    Post subject: Tools to Sell | 
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				Re the tail skins. The key for me so far is to backrivet as much as 
 possible. I've been using a 12" X 30" X 3/8" steel plate (it doesn't 
 have to be polished or milled flat) along with several pieces of 3/8" 
 packing box plywood. I found that the Cleaveland backrivet set does a 
 *much* better job than the ATS set I started with (see below) The long 
 backrivet set along with a short one helps a lot too. Almost ever rivet 
 forward of the 2 rearmost bulkheads can be back riveted. I haven't done 
 the top skin yet.
 
 I plan to use the backrivet set and the backrivet bucking bar from 
 Cleaveland for the top skin - but I'm looking for other advice here.
 
  From my previous post on backrivet sets:
 I've been using the backrivet set from ATS and getting acceptable 
 results. However, I recently had my first opportunity to use a 12" long 
 backrivet from Cleaveland and discovered that it was easier to get good 
 results.
 
 The ATS has a thick plastic collar that I had to grind a flat spot on in 
 order to get squarely on the J stiffener rivets. I've hit it twice more 
 with the grinder to ease access on other rivets.
 
 The ATS also has a convex face on the set. I found that unless the set 
 was well centered and straight, it was easy to get tilted, concave shop 
 heads.
 
 The Cleaveland 12" tool (or whoever's tool they distribute) has a thin 
 plastic collar and I found it fit the J stiffeners very nicely. The face 
 of the set is flatter and it's easier to get square, flat shop heads. I 
 just ordered their normal length backrivet set and understand it is 
 setup the same as the 12".
 
 Mike Doble (Home Office) wrote:
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  All – I’m convinced now that I need a pneumatic squeezer (thanks a lot 
  Dave Leikam…).
 
  Any of you that are done want to part with yours??? If not, I’ll call 
  Avery or Cleveland Tool.
 
  Also, there was some discussion a few weeks ago about how to rivet the 
  tail cone skins without wrinkles.
 
  Does anyone know what mushroom set was suggested for this? I seem to 
  remember the Cleveland set with rubber guard (not the swivel).
 
  Mike
 
  Builder 40691. Working on my tail……20 hrs so far.
 
 
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		kearney(at)shaw.ca Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:28 am    Post subject: Tools to Sell | 
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				Mike  
    
 Call the yardstore (www.yardstore.com) as they sell good quality *used* pneumatic squeezers and they stand behind what they sell.  
    
 Cheers  
    
 Les Kearney  
 Rv10 # 40643 – Not riveting due to wristus fractus   
    
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		greytex
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:53 am    Post subject: Tools to Sell | 
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				<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Good luck getting someone to part with their squeezer. It is a "Charlton  Heston" tool. Cold dead hands speech>>>>> 
   
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		moons1999(at)yahoo.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:35 am    Post subject: Tools to Sell | 
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				Mike,
     I use the mushroom set with rubber guard that you are referring to.  At first I didn't like it because the rubber was to thick and the rivet popped out a little bit.  I ended up trimming down the rubber and it works great now.  Much easier to do single-person riveting with the rubber "holding" the rivet gun in place.  Prior to doing that I had sworn off single-person riveting with a bucking bar.  I have not used the swivel one so I can't comment on that.
 
 --Shawn
 40366
 
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		LarryRosen
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Tools to Sell | 
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				Try ebay for the pneumatic squeezer.
 
 Use this for the search string, including the brackets.
 (squeezer,squeazer,squeezers,squeazers,squeeze,squeaze) (rivet, rivit)
 
 They are tough to find, but you may get lucky. Nothing on ebay now 
 unless you are looking for a Tatco hand squeezer.
 
 Larry Rosen
 N205EN (reserved)
 
 Mike Doble (Home Office) wrote:
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  All – I’m convinced now that I need a pneumatic squeezer (thanks a lot 
  Dave Leikam…).
 
  Any of you that are done want to part with yours??? If not, I’ll call 
  Avery or Cleveland Tool.
 
  Also, there was some discussion a few weeks ago about how to rivet the 
  tail cone skins without wrinkles.
 
  Does anyone know what mushroom set was suggested for this? I seem to 
  remember the Cleveland set with rubber guard (not the swivel).
 
  Mike
 
  Builder 40691. Working on my tail……20 hrs so far.
 
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		Nick Nafsinger
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:03 am    Post subject: Tools to Sell | 
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				LMAO, you’re welcome John.  J     
    
 Now get the Backrivet Table built so we can get the Rudder done this weekend!  
    
 Nick  
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 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cram
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:53 AM
  To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
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 Good luck getting someone to part with their squeezer. It is a "Charlton Heston" tool. Cold dead hands speech>>>>>   
     
    
     
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 From: Les Kearney (kearney(at)shaw.ca)   
     
 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)   
     
 Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:25 AM  
     
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 Mike  
    
 Call the yardstore (www.yardstore.com) as they sell good quality *used* pneumatic squeezers and they stand behind what they sell.  
    
 Cheers  
    
 Les Kearney  
 Rv10 # 40643 - Not riveting due to wristus fractus   
    
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  From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Doble (Home Office)
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:03 AM
  To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Tools to Sell  
    
 All - I'm convinced now that I need a pneumatic squeezer (thanks a lot Dave Leikam.).  
    
 Any of you that are done want to part with yours???  If not, I'll call Avery or Cleveland Tool.  
    
 Also, there was some discussion a few weeks ago about how to rivet the tail cone skins without wrinkles.  
    
 Does anyone know what mushroom set was suggested for this?  I seem to remember the Cleveland set with rubber guard (not the swivel).  
    
 Mike  
    
 Builder 40691.  Working on my tail..20 hrs so far.  
    
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