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bryanmmartin
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:48 am Post subject: E-LSA 601 |
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There are a few E-LSA 601s out there, but they weren't built from
conforming kits. They were certificated under the "fat ultralight"
provision of the new rules. The "fat ultralight" provision expires at
the end of February of 2008. The standards document for E-LSA
conforming kit manufacturing has only recently been finalized so no
conforming kits for any design have yet been approved. I don't think
Zenith has said whether or not they will produce an E-LSA conforming
kit.
On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:09 AM, steveadams wrote:
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<dr_steve_adams(at)yahoo.com>
amyvega2005(at)earthlink. wrote:
> Rick,
> you can use 601 ELSAs for hire (4profit) up to the end of 2008.
> New LSA rules allow for it.
> JUan
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe there are any E-LSA
601's. A conforming kit has not been approved.
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Gig Giacona
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:18 am Post subject: Re: E-LSA 601 |
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The big problem with the conforming design E-LSA when effective will be that it won't allow any deviation from the approved design.
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bryanmmartin
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:57 am Post subject: E-LSA 601 |
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As I understand it, you have to build it exactly according to the
plans to get the airworthiness certificate, but after that, you can
pretty much do anything you want to it just like you can with E-AB.
I have to correct my earlier post, the "fat
" provision expires at the end of January in 2008, not February.
Regardless of which route you take to get an E-LSA certificate, you
can only rent the plane out to your flight students for the purpose
of flight instruction. After the end of January of 2010 this
provision expires and you won't be able to rent out E-LSAs at all.
Then, the only difference between operating an E-LSA or an E-AB will
be who can do the annual inspections.
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The big problem with the conforming design E-LSA when effective
will be that it won't allow any deviation from the approved design.
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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: E-LSA 601 |
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Also, in order to make a conforming E-LSA kit the kit manufacturer
must also make S-LSA planes. I don't think ZAC has any such
plans. Perhaps AMD would do that, but I have not heard they have
those intentions. The type of kit envisioned in this E-LSA is more
like the S-LSA than a classic kit. It doesn't have the 51%
requirement and doesn't allow the builder to make ANY modifications
to the design. Still, we can have our kit built planes certified
under the Fat Ultralight provision through January 31, 2008.
The only "For Hire" flight allowed for E-LSA planes I am aware of is
"Instruction". These planes are not eligible for normal "For Hire"
operations such as Air Taxi or Cropdusting or cargo hauling.
The instruction provision is part of the "Bait" to get fat
ultralights registered in the normal system.
Paul
XL fuselage
At 05:48 AM 3/27/2007, you wrote:
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There are a few E-LSA 601s out there, but they weren't built from
conforming kits. They were certificated under the "fat ultralight"
provision of the new rules. The "fat ultralight" provision expires at
the end of February of 2008. The standards document for E-LSA
conforming kit manufacturing has only recently been finalized so no
conforming kits for any design have yet been approved. I don't think
Zenith has said whether or not they will produce an E-LSA conforming
kit.
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