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kenbpeck(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:55 am Post subject: Lights on VS and When to buy options



I'm sure there is an archive that answers my questions, so if someone will

please point me to it, I'll go read through the archives....

Question #1: As an additional 'classy' touch, I thought I put a couple of

small lights in the HS pointing up at the VS - you know, kind of like they

do on commercial planes. Was thinking probably just a couple of leds. -

anyone done this, thought about it, have reasons why I can't / shouldn't?

Question #2: I'm close to finishing the HS, planning the -10 to do some

minimal IFR in the plane, so night lighting, collision avoidance, and

autopilot will be a necessity. Can anyone offer guidance about when in the

process I need to decide to buy the additional components that don't come in

the kit?

Thanks,

Ken

-10 HS riveting

Central FL

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bob.condrey(at)baesystems
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:20 am Post subject: Lights on VS and When to buy options



Ken,

No comment about your first question. In terms of timing for purchasing

items, you can hold off on purchasing the actual lights, etc. until

you're finishing up the plane. Running the wire will potentially make

your life easier down the road. Some have run conduit through the wings

but there is reasonable access to run it through the stock snap bushings

after the wings are complete - it will take more time without conduit

however. I installed my wing wiring before closing them up and just

used the stock snap bushings. Running conduit below the baggage floor

and/or behind the right side baggage wall is a necessity. These panels

are riveted in place and you'll need to run wire for battery power,

contactor control, strobes, strobe power supply, position lights, etc

from the tailcone to the panel and/or wings. I'd also suggest a conduit

in the tailcone from the bay where the battery is to the aft bay.

You will have to install a mount for a heated pitot before closing up

the wing. Also, it's much easier to install the AP roll servo while the

bottom wing skin is off, but it can be done through the access panel

(for TruTrak, can't speak for others). This is really a trade off

between a 30 min job with the skin off and a couple hours (my guess)

with scraped knuckles and cussing if the skin is already on.

Here's a list of specific potential equipment with my thoughts:

Strobes/position lights: these mount on the bottom of the rudder and in

the wingtips - can be done anytime. Power supply is typically being

mounted in the tailcone, same bay as the battery.

Landing lights: Kit from Van's installs in the wingtips and can be done

anytime. Other options (Duckworks) install in the outboard leading edge

of a wing. It is my understanding that these can be installed after

completion but is easier before.

Antennas: typical mounting locations for navs are either in the wingtips

(Archer - I have one in each wingtip) or on the bottom aft end of the

tailcone. MB can also be in a wingtip (my installation) or on the

bottom of the fuselage. Comms on the bottom of the fuselage (mine are

below the rear seats). Transponder on the bottom of the fuselage (mine

is in the aft end of the bay with the battery box). Only areas that are

inaccessible after completion are below the rear seats and baggage

floor. In retrospect I'd probably mount my comms just forward of the

rear seats in the area below the tube that drives the flaps.

AP servos (TruTrak): Roll servo mounts in the wing - very clean install.

A stock bracket for the aileron bellcrank is replaced with one from TT

that includes mounting holes for the servo. As stated earlier - can be

done after wing closeout but is easier before. Pitch servo is attached

to aft part of the battery tray assembly with a bracket supplied by

Van's in the fuselage kit. It is possible to purchase the servos and

defer the actual AP decision since most TT models use the same servos.

This allows you to defer the majority of the expense (and specific model

decision).

Heated Pitot: You'll need a Gretz (or equivalent) mount. This needs to

be put in before the bottom wing skin is attached.

PSS Angle of Attack system: the pressure taps install in the leading

edge of an outboard wing bay. Easily installed after wing completion.

It is possible to purchase the system in two kits to get the pressure

taps and tubing early and defer the majority of the expense (and

specific model decision). I'd recommend this so that you can insure

that the conduit/snap bushing hole size is sufficiently large for the

tubing and various wires.

Hope this helps!

Bob #40105

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jjessen(at)rcn.com
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:57 am Post subject: Lights on VS and When to buy options



Nice post, Bob.

do not archive

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don.wentz(at)intel.com
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: Lights on VS and When to buy options



Yes Bob,

Good thorough information.

Just a couple comments:

1 - Whether you use a 'conduit' or 'bushings', install an extra fishing

line or 2 so if you add some wire later you have something to attach to

and just pull it thru.

2 - Since the -10 wings are quite large inside, installing the Duckworks

lights after the wings are closed is only minimally more difficult than

during construction.

3 - We're adding an option to our product list that is the install kits

without the lamps. We have gotten many inquiries for this to either

space-out the costs, and or allow installation of lamps sourced by the

builder. At least they can leverage our installation package.

Dw (Duckworks)

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kenbpeck(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:36 am Post subject: Lights on VS and When to buy options



Thanks both Don and Bob for your helpful replies.

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