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tommylutz(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: Instant Garage

Anyone have thoughts about using one of these for a workshop?

http://www.iport.com/sales.html



Costs around $2100 delivered and freshly painted -- is it worth it?



 I have a basement with limited access and no garage.  I need space from somewhere, whether it's one of these, rented storage, or something.  Suggestions anyone?



BTW thanks to everyone for being so responsive and helpful to my previous posts! 



Thanks,

Tom

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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: Instant Garage

I recall that someone DID build their Zenith in a cargo  container. But I don't know where I read it.

  

 I assume it would have some resale value so the cost would  be even cheaper.

  

 -- Craig

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bryanmmartin

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: Instant Garage

I live in an apartment with no garage so I built my Zodiac in a 24'  

cargo trailer that I bought for $4800 and parked in a outdoor storage  

lot space that I rented for $35.00 a month. So it's certainly  

possible to build in a container like this, and you can always sell  

the container after you finish the plane. You do what you gotta do.



On Mar 20, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Tom Lutz wrote:



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		   Anyone have thoughts about using one of these for a workshop?

 http://www.iport.com/sales.html



 Costs around $2100 delivered and freshly painted -- is it worth it?



 I have a basement with limited access and no garage.  I need space  

 from somewhere, whether it's one of these, rented storage, or  

 something.  Suggestions anyone?




	




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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject: Instant Garage

Hi Tom,



 I guess the shipping container is a good starting point - depending on the climate where you live.  You would probably want to add some ventilation openings and lots of lighting and power outlets.



 One of the guys in my local EAA club rented a hangar at the airport and is building his plane there.  It has lots of space and sufficient light and ventilation, but not enough heat to be comfortable in the winter.  I live in the NW rain forest, so it doesn't get all that cold.  Still, it is hard to work when the temperature is near freezing.



 You might want to talk to your local chapter members and seek local options.  I am sure many of them have faced exactly the same problem before you.



 Good luck,



 Paul

 XL fuselage

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 At 06:37 PM 3/20/2007, you wrote:

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		  Anyone have thoughts about using one of these for a workshop?

  http://www.iport.com/sales.html



 Costs around $2100 delivered and freshly painted -- is it worth it?



 I have a basement with limited access and no garage.  I need space from somewhere, whether it's one of these, rented storage, or something.  Suggestions anyone?



 BTW thanks to everyone for being so responsive and helpful to my previous posts! 



 Thanks,

 Tom



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Tim Juhl

Joined: 21 Mar 2006
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Location: "Thumb" of Michigan

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:20 am Post subject: Re: Instant Garage

If you are going to put it on your own property you need to see if there would be any zoning issues.   You might also want to consider a fabric covered shelter.  We see a lot of these showing up on farms.  Some of the structures made this way are huge and come with at least a 15 year guarantee on the fabric.  If I ever decide to keep my XL at the airstrip by my house I've considered using a hangar made this way.



   Visit  http://www.shelterlogic.com/   for some examples.

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tommylutz(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:44 am Post subject: Instant Garage

Those fabric shelters look like they could be a viable solution, except they have no floor...right? 



On 3/21/07, Tim Juhl < juhl(at)avci.net (juhl(at)avci.net)> wrote:[quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tim Juhl" < juhl(at)avci.net (juhl(at)avci.net)>



If you are going to put it on your own property you need to see if there would be any zoning issues.   You might also want to consider a fabric covered shelter.  We see a lot of these showing up on farms.  Some of the structures made this way are huge and come with at least a 15 year guarantee on the fabric.  If I ever decide to keep my XL at the airstrip by my house I've considered using a hangar made this way. 



   Visit  http://www.shelterlogic.com/   for some examples.



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pdelano(at)TELUS.NET
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject: Instant Garage

My company built semi mobile debarkers for the  forest industry. We used 40 foot shipping containers with partition walls to  form an MCC room, Hydraulic Power Unit Room and a small central workshop. Great  idea, but not the best lawn ornament. Used ones are dirt cheap.

  

 Perry

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Tim Juhl

Joined: 21 Mar 2006
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Instant Garage

Regarding fabric shelter - floor is your choice - dirt, wood, concrete.



Tim

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mattreeves(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject: Instant Garage

Don't use dirt.  I did that and found out it lets all the moisture through and rodents and snakes and I HATE SNAKES - (spawns of Satan - kill them all).  At least put down plywood but I'd say pour concrete and put some lights in it.    

   

  P.S. when it rains, puddles form in the overhang areas and SNAKES get under and around and IN it and did I mention I HATE SNAKES - I don't care if they are friendly pets that you put on a leash, cuddle, and show your friends - KILL them all.

   

  Matt



Tim Juhl <juhl(at)avci.net> wrote:

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Regarding fabric shelter - floor is your choice - dirt, wood, concrete.



Tim



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tommylutz(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: Instant Garage

And we all know what would happen if snakes got into your airplane workshop unnoticed.....SNAKES ON A M***F*** PLANE!



Sorry, couldn't resist.



On 3/22/07,  Matt Reeves <mattreeves(at)yahoo.com (mattreeves(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:[quote] Don't use dirt.  I did that and found out it lets all the moisture through and rodents and snakes and I HATE SNAKES - (spawns of Satan - kill them all).  At least put down plywood but I'd say pour concrete and put some lights in it.     

   

  P.S. when it rains, puddles form in the overhang areas and SNAKES get under and around and IN it and did I mention I HATE SNAKES - I don't care if they are friendly pets that you put on a leash, cuddle, and show your friends - KILL them all. 

   

  Matt



Tim Juhl <juhl(at)avci.net (juhl(at)avci.net)> wrote:

   [quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tim Juhl" 



Regarding fabric shelter - floor is your choice - dirt, wood, concrete. 



Tim



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marinegunner(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: Instant Garage

Hey,

 Most snakes are good. Bull Snakes keep pack rats and rattle snakes away as they eat them. Many snakes eat bugs. Small snakes fly well and remain in your pocket. Yep! Snakes on A Plane really sucked, but some snakes are fine. 

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Steven R. Hulland

CH 600 Taildragger

Amado, AZ



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Float Flyr

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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:42 am Post subject: Instant Garage

Come to  Newfoundland......  We're smart enough to be enough like Ireland not to  have any snakes or otherwise extremely venomous critters here.  Good  fishing too.

  

 The only part you might not be  interested in is the climate... Six months of winter and six months of "hard  sledding" 

  

  

 

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mattreeves(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:31 am Post subject: Instant Garage

You guys are all cracking me up!!  I don't care if the snakes eat bugs, rodents, cows, or even my MOOCH-in-law, I want them all dead - evil ugly creatures from HELL.

   

  I was thinking of taking over Steve Irwin's crocodile hunter show but I think they'd have to edit out the parts of me bashing snakes with a shovel and burning them all while screaming like a sissy girl.

   

  Bottom line is this:  Build your airplane wherever you can - if that means a temporary instant garage - great - at least you're building and looking forward to getting out of bed every day - you'll be like a kid.

   

  Also, I built part of my airplane in a storage unit which had electricity.  It was fenched and I only had to pay $5 more/month for electric.  I think I had a 14x30 unit - but that's an idea too.

   

  Best of luck and KILL THE SNAKES and no I won't be going to  see that snakes on a plane movie - Harrison Ford in Indiana Jones who found a snake in a cockpit was enough for me - even if it was a pet - and can bring world peace - I'd still throw his slithery butt OUT of the plane - and hopefully it'd LAND on my Mother-In-Law!!!!

   

  Matt



Steve Hulland <marinegunner(at)gmail.com> wrote:

  [quote]  Hey,

  Most snakes are good. Bull Snakes keep pack rats and rattle snakes away as they eat them. Many snakes eat bugs. Small snakes fly well and remain in your pocket. Yep! Snakes on A Plane really sucked, but some snakes are fine. 

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Steven R. Hulland

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rlalonde

Joined: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 43

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:32 am Post subject: Instant Garage

Where in Newfoundland??

Heck, a "instant garage" would be crushed by the snow load you guys get over 

on "the rock".

Ron



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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:42 am Post subject: Instant Garage

Yes but during that 6 mos of sledding they have a rum called “Screech”, by far the best rum in the world if you enjoy a super heavy dark rum that is! But then again we use Molasses on our pancakes instead of maple syrup.  I took some to Jon Croke the last time we visited, I’m not sure he enjoyed it as he prefers a light rum, but we had a good time. The main city for the island is built on a hill and all streets head for water at the bottom! Not the best place for skateboards. Seriously, it is a land like no other and has a natural beauty unspoiled by civilization. Plus I have a hard time believing you can find a friendlier people outside Cape Breton!    

     

Mark Townsend  Alma, Ontario  

Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started  

www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com/ www.Osprey2.com  

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raymondj(at)frontiernet.n
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:01 am Post subject: Instant Garage

Don't  be wishy-washy. How do you REALLY feel about snakes?   

  

 The  containers sound like a great idea, if only for storage so you can store the  materials and tools you're not using that day to maximize the usability of the  space you have. Or... you could sleep in it and build in your bed  room.  Easy to keep snakes out, too.

  

 Raymond Julian

 Kettle  River, MN

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Location: N38.9947,W105.1305,ALT. 9,100'

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:51 am Post subject: Instant Garage

All,

 Here is my airplane factory. It is a Cover-It shelter that I picked up for "FREE". It had some tears in it so that is why there is a Blue Poly on the inside. It keeps the snow and rain off of me.

 

 I don't have problems with snakes, since I live at an altitude of 9,100 feet. Snakes don't like the thin/cold air. I get an average of 130"-150" of  snow each year, so I did some truss-beefing-up to help in that area. For Mooch-in-laws, this is where I reside, instead of the house.

 

 Size is 12'x30' but since there is a door on the other side, I walled of the last 4' and use that as storage. The bench is 4'x12.5' with storage shelves. The upper shelf is for un-formed flat sheets of Aluminum. The steel-tube frame along the wall is for the Smyth Sidewinder I am also building.

 

 Anyway, try to do whatever it takes to get your plane built. For temperature extremes, Summer time is ok, Winter time, I usually call it quits and go in the house when it cools down to 18-20F.

 

 

 Good Luck!!!!

 

 Keith

 CH701 -- 10% scratch

 Sidewinder -- 8% scratch

 Teenie Two -- wooden forms built

 N 38.9947

 W 105.1305

 Alt. 9,100'

 

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 I live in an apartment with no garage so I built my Zodiac in a 24'  cargo trailer that I bought for $4800 and parked in a outdoor storage  lot space that I rented for $35.00 a month. So it's certainly  possible to build in a container like this, and you can always sell  the container after you finish the plane. You do what you gotta do.   

   

 On Mar 20, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Tom Lutz wrote:   

   

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		  Anyone have thoughts about using one of these for a workshop?     

 http://www.iport.com/sales.html     

     

 Costs around $2100 delivered and freshly painted -- is it worth it?     

     

 I have a basement with limited access and no garage.  I need space  from somewhere, whether it's one of these, rented storage, or  something.  Suggestions anyone?

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rlalonde

Joined: 20 Nov 2006
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:20 am Post subject: Instant Garage

Hey Mark, I married a Cape Bretoner!!!

One with five toes on each foot too!!!!....

Ron

[quote]Yes but during that 6 mos of sledding they have a rum called “Screech”,

by far the best rum in the world if you enjoy a super heavy dark rum

that is! But then again we use Molasses on our pancakes instead of maple

syrup.  I took some to Jon Croke the last time we visited, I’m not sure

he enjoyed it as he prefers a light rum, but we had a good time. The

main city for the island is built on a hill and all streets head for

water at the bottom! Not the best place for skateboards. Seriously, it

is a land like no other and has a natural beauty unspoiled by

civilization. Plus I have a hard time believing you can find a

friendlier people outside Cape Breton!



Mark Townsend  Alma, Ontario

Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started

HYPERLINK "http://www.ch601.org"www.ch601.org / HYPERLINK

"http://www.ch701.com"www.ch701.com/ HYPERLINK

"http://www.Osprey2.com"www.Osprey2.com

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