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txpilot
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 Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:19 am Post subject: Instrument panels |
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I'm looking for input from other builders on exactly how to build the instrument panel. After the basic layout is determined and holes are cut in the supplied .025 panel, are there 'subpanels' attached to the face of the instrument panel? If so, what are the subpanels made of? Are they best attached using screws and nutplates? What about paint?
If possible, attach pics to any replies (especially of work in progress)!
Thanks,
Dan Ginty
Woodlands, TX
701 builder - 70% complete
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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:17 am Post subject: Instrument panels |
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Dan,
Here's how I did it. As you can see, a lot of the .025 has been cut away. My sub-panels are .040, and they are attached with T-nuts from the aviation department of my local Ace Hardware. I painted it with Rustoleum High Performance Enamel (Home Depot). Feel free to ask more.
Jay in Dallas
"txpilot" <djg7(at)houston.rr.com> wrote:
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I'm looking for input from other builders on exactly how to build the instrument panel. After the basic layout is determined and holes are cut in the supplied .025 panel, are there 'subpanels' attached to the face of the instrument panel? If so, what are the subpanels made of? Are they best attached using screws and nutplates? What about paint?
If possible, attach pics to any replies (especially of work in progress)!
Thanks,
Dan Ginty
Woodlands, TX
701 builder - 70% complete
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larry(at)macsmachine.com
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:50 am Post subject: Instrument panels |
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Dan,
.025 aluminum is a poor thickness for an instrument panel. I'd start
with .050 and go from there. You will need
less reinforcement and attachments will need to be fewer or less
stressed by the flexure of .025.
For better information, try the Bengilis Books and what's suggested there.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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I'm looking for input from other builders on exactly how to build the instrument panel. After the basic layout is determined and holes are cut in the supplied .025 panel, are there 'subpanels' attached to the face of the instrument panel? If so, what are the subpanels made of? Are they best attached using screws and nutplates? What about paint?
If possible, attach pics to any replies (especially of work in progress)!
Thanks,
Dan Ginty
Woodlands, TX
701 builder - 70% complete
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dredmoody(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: Instrument panels |
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I cut a doubler out of .050" 6061-T6 and had a local machine sop bend the radius for the bottom flange. There is no side or top flange. The doubler nests inside the factory panel nice and snug.
The plan is to cut out the final placement instrument holes in the factory supplied .025" panel, file and sand the edges smooth as needed. Then the shapes of the cutouts can be transfered to the .050" doubler and cut out to match. Any errors there would be filing or cutting to slightly larger size. The easier fine cuts in the thinner material will determine the esthetic result on the face of the panel and the less esthetically critical .050" doubler will provide the strength.
The two pieces can be riveted or bolted together in empty areas where there are no instrument mounting screws to help hold the two together.
Dred
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japhillipsga(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:17 am Post subject: Instrument panels |
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Dan, much as Larry stated the regular panel metal is really too thin unless you are not putting full size and several gages in. Maybe ok for some glass panel set ups, someone else can address that application. I took .90 aluminum and cut out two clusters and installed the clusters with 4-5 screws into platenuts. Left side for flight instruments. Rightside for engine. Center for trans & transponder. That way I can unscrew the cluster and pull out the whole section for access. Works, unfortunately this I know. Looks pretty good and isn't much of a weight addition. Remember, you cut big holes in the .90. Lastly, there is as many neat and good ways to solve this problem as there are 601s. Good luck, Bill of Georgia do not archive
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steerr(at)bellsouth.net
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: Instrument panels |
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I agree. A key question is whether you want to shock mount your panel or
not. Some do, some don't. I shock mounted mine and made a new panel out of
.063. Mine is one piece, but others have used up to three pieces. I
reinforced the original panel, around the edges and vertically, with
standard L angle and cut out the middle. Like Larry said, Tony's book (and
articles on the EAA site) talk about how to do all that.
Bill
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agibeaut
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:22 am Post subject: Instrument panels |
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Larry, can you be more specific on the book? I Googled
and came up with nothing.
New 701 Builder
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--- LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> wrote:
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<larry(at)macsmachine.com>
Dan,
.025 aluminum is a poor thickness for an instrument
panel. I'd start
with .050 and go from there. You will need
less reinforcement and attachments will need to be
fewer or less
stressed by the flexure of .025.
For better information, try the Bengilis Books and
what's suggested there.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
do not archive
txpilot wrote:
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<djg7(at)houston.rr.com>
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> I'm looking for input from other builders on
exactly how to build the instrument panel. After
the basic layout is determined and holes are cut in
the supplied .025 panel, are there 'subpanels'
attached to the face of the instrument panel? If
so, what are the subpanels made of? Are they best
attached using screws and nutplates? What about
paint?
>
> If possible, attach pics to any replies
(especially of work in progress)!
>
> Thanks,
>
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> Dan Ginty
> Woodlands, TX
> 701 builder - 70% complete
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dbortol
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:52 am Post subject: Instrument panels |
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Art, have a look here
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/bv/books_bingelis.html
Dino
On 3/29/07, Art Gibeaut <aagibeaut(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
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Larry, can you be more specific on the book? I Googled
and came up with nothing.
New 701 Builder
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--- LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> wrote:
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> <larry(at)macsmachine.com>
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> Dan,
> .025 aluminum is a poor thickness for an instrument
> panel. I'd start
> with .050 and go from there. You will need
> less reinforcement and attachments will need to be
> fewer or less
> stressed by the flexure of .025.
> For better information, try the Bengilis Books and
> what's suggested there.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
> do not archive
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> txpilot wrote:
> >
> <djg7(at)houston.rr.com>
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> > I'm looking for input from other builders on
> exactly how to build the instrument panel. After
> the basic layout is determined and holes are cut in
> the supplied .025 panel, are there 'subpanels'
> attached to the face of the instrument panel? If
> so, what are the subpanels made of? Are they best
> attached using screws and nutplates? What about
> paint?
> >
> > If possible, attach pics to any replies
> (especially of work in progress)!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Dan Ginty
> > Woodlands, TX
> > 701 builder - 70% complete
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> >
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> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List
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larry(at)macsmachine.com
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:00 pm Post subject: Instrument panels |
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Art,
Try the link below. I misspelled the Bingelis name, but
the link will refer you to 4 good books on building.
The one I'd recommend is Sportplane Construction Techniques
http://shop.eaa.org/html/04_books_bingelis.html?cart_id=
Good luck,
Larry McFarland
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Art Gibeaut wrote:
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Larry, can you be more specific on the book? I Googled
and came up with nothing.
New 701 Builder
Do not archive
--- LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> wrote:
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> <larry(at)macsmachine.com>
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> Dan,
> .025 aluminum is a poor thickness for an instrument
> panel. I'd start
> with .050 and go from there. You will need
> less reinforcement and attachments will need to be
> fewer or less
> stressed by the flexure of .025.
> For better information, try the Bengilis Books and
> what's suggested there.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
> do not archive
>
> txpilot wrote:
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> <djg7(at)houston.rr.com>
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>> I'm looking for input from other builders on
>>
> exactly how to build the instrument panel. After
> the basic layout is determined and holes are cut in
> the supplied .025 panel, are there 'subpanels'
> attached to the face of the instrument panel? If
> so, what are the subpanels made of? Are they best
> attached using screws and nutplates? What about
> paint?
>
>> If possible, attach pics to any replies
>>
> (especially of work in progress)!
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Dan Ginty
>> Woodlands, TX
>> 701 builder - 70% complete
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> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List
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> Web Forums!
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