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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:07 am    Post subject: aileron trimming by squeezing question Reply with quote

Listers,
Need to fix a slightly heavy right wing on a new
rocket. Please correct me if I am wrong here.
Seems one should squeeze the trailing edge
of the light wing. Correct???
Thank you, Stewart Bergner


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:54 am    Post subject: aileron trimming by squeezing question Reply with quote

That's correct, Stewart. Gently squeeze the trailing edge aileron of the
light wing. I simply used the pliers with the wide lips with some cloth to
prevent scratching the paint. I would squeeze a small amount and then move
it down the full length of the aileron doing the same. Then I repeated the
process. Did it three times. I didn't want to distort the metal by trying
to squeeze it down all the way in one location the first time. Did just a
little bit each location before moving the plyers.

I did it on my right wing (Left wing heavy) and it complete corrected the
problem. I suggest to do it in stages so that it's not over done.

Ed

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:55 am    Post subject: aileron trimming by squeezing question Reply with quote

On 5 Feb 2006, at 07:59, RVer273sb(at)aol.com wrote:

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Listers,
Need to fix a slightly heavy right wing on a new
rocket. Please correct me if I am wrong here.
Seems one should squeeze the trailing edge
of the light wing. Correct???
Thank you, Stewart Bergner

Van's has a useful document on this subject. It should be read
before you do anything, as there may be other causes for the heavy
wing, and you ideally would attack the root cause, rather than just
treat the symptoms:

http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/Wing_Heavy.pdf

Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:48 am    Post subject: aileron trimming by squeezing question Reply with quote

My fix for a slightly heavy right wing was an aileron trim tab.
The "tab" is a wooden wedge from the hardware store, intended to
secure the head to a sledge hammer.
I bonded it on using double back tape, test flew it, trimmed it for
neutral roll, painted it then bonded it with a dab or epoxy.
It's on the underside of the left aileron, unobtrusive and completely
effective.
Later I installed Van's aileron trim kit and think I should have done
that first.

BTW, my fix for a half-ball yaw caused by my imperfect installation
of gear leg fairings was to align the fairings using washers stacked
to 1/8 inch between the trailing edge of the fairings and the bracket
on the fuselage.

Don Diehl
RV-4, N28EW
Bremerton WA

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On Feb 5, 2006, at 04:5957, RVer273sb(at)aol.com wrote:

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Listers,
Need to fix a slightly heavy right wing on a new
rocket. Please correct me if I am wrong here.
Seems one should squeeze the trailing edge
of the light wing. Correct???
Thank you, Stewart Bergner


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:23 am    Post subject: aileron trimming by squeezing question Reply with quote

I have found that the aileron brackets have not been installed exactly the same for what ever reason and one end of the aileron hangs lower than the other.

Go here:

http://www.rvproject.com/20050508.html


Don Diehl <diehldon(at)comcast.net> wrote:


My fix for a slightly heavy right wing was an aileron trim tab.
The "tab" is a wooden wedge from the hardware store, intended to
secure the head to a sledge hammer.
I bonded it on using double back tape, test flew it, trimmed it for
neutral roll, painted it then bonded it with a dab or epoxy.
It's on the underside of the left aileron, unobtrusive and completely
effective.
Later I installed Van's aileron trim kit and think I should have done
that first.

BTW, my fix for a half-ball yaw caused by my imperfect installation
of gear leg fairings was to align the fairings using washers stacked
to 1/8 inch between the trailing edge of the fairings and the bracket
on the fuselage.

Don Diehl
RV-4, N28EW
Bremerton WA

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On Feb 5, 2006, at 04:5957, RVer273sb(at)aol.com wrote:

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Listers,
Need to fix a slightly heavy right wing on a new
rocket. Please correct me if I am wrong here.
Seems one should squeeze the trailing edge
of the light wing. Correct???
Thank you, Stewart Bergner


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:43 am    Post subject: aileron trimming by squeezing question Reply with quote

Stewart,

Here's a link to Van's instructions:

http://vansaircraft.com/pdf/Wing_Heavy.pdf

Terry

Listers,
Need to fix a slightly heavy right wing on a new
rocket. Please correct me if I am wrong here.
Seems one should squeeze the trailing edge
of the light wing. Correct???
Thank you, Stewart Bergner


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject: aileron trimming by squeezing question Reply with quote

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> Listers,
> Need to fix a slightly heavy right wing on a new
> rocket. Please correct me if I am wrong here.
> Seems one should squeeze the trailing edge
> of the light wing. Correct???
> Thank you, Stewart Bergner

You are correct the fix is to squeeze the light wing's aileron.


I have done this successfully. AND I did this very carefully. What others
have said here on the list is very true.

First, check all other things per the Van's document/instructions to see if
anything major is at fault. Then if that does not give you resolution, very
very very gently squeeze the light wing's aileron all across the length of
it. I mean squeeze it so you do not even think you are doing anything. Go
out and fly. If the wing is still heavy, tighten the adjusting tool about
1/128th of an inch. Resqueeze. Test fly. Keep doing this until you find
the right amount of squeeze. After I corrected the problem, I cannot even
see that I changed the aileron one tiny bit. It is very very suttle.

Indiana Larry, RV7 SunSeeker 80+ hours flying

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