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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 5:34 am    Post subject: RV8- Dimple Question Reply with quote

Hello RV-8a builders, I am deburring and dimpling the fuselage. Am I reading 28a (2Cool correct ? Are there five 470 rivets on each side that have the working ends exposed on the bottom ? They are at bulkhead 804. Further, does that mean that the remainder of the rivets along the bottom longren forward of 804 have the working ends inside the cockpit ? Also, is there something simple (paper, plan {other that Van's} written words, diagram, etc.) that shows or explains precisely which holes are dimpled, their directions and whether to counter sink or dimple ? Such a aid would really be valuable. Hope to hear from someone before I screw up again , Best regards, Bill of Georgia


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:03 am    Post subject: RV8- Dimple Question Reply with quote

Bill of Georgia, the idea is to follow the rivet plan (can't remeber the plans number) and only dimple those holes that call for a counter sunk rivet. the 470 rivets will be covered by the wing and do not need to be countersunk. i drove all rivets from the outside of the fuse, bucking on the inside. you might want to circle the group of holes that do not get dimpled ( i did as a reminder) so you don't have to spend time double, triple and qusdruple checking the plans. good luck and happy rivetting!
Heath
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: RV8- Dimple Question Reply with quote

Bill

95% of the rivets in the RV airplanes require dimpling. The few that need countersinking will be obvious.
Note: there are ok dimple dies and there are GOOD dimple dies. I had best luck with the spring back dies from Avery and Cleveland.

Dick Martin
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:11 am    Post subject: RV8- Dimple Question Reply with quote

Bill of Georgia,
You're not exactly getting your question answered, are you?
I do recall that there are about 5 rivets on each side that have the shop head on the outside of the fuselage. I thought it a bit strange at the time, but since mine is a QB, I assumed the Phillipinos had done it right.
My hard drive crashed, so the photos I had of the plans was lost, but I will look at Dwg 28A at the shop today and confirm the info for you. In fact, I'll take a photo to send you.
The Van's RV-8A builder's manual is sadly inadequate. I jokingly say it says, "Build wing. Attach wing."
I wish Van's would rewrite it to be like the new RV-10 manual, but that is unlikely.
Stan Sutterfield
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Hello RV-8a builders, I am deburring and dimpling the fuselage. Am I
reading 28a (2Cool correct ? Are there five 470 rivets on each side that
have the working ends exposed on the bottom ? They are at bulkhead 804.
Further, does that mean that the remainder of the rivets along the
bottom longren forward of 804 have the working ends inside the cockpit ?
Also, is there something simple (paper, plan {other that Van's} written
words, diagram, etc.) that shows or explains precisely which holes are
dimpled, their directions and whether to counter sink or dimple ? Such a
aid would really be valuable. Hope to hear from someone before I screw
up again , Best regards, Bill of Georgia




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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:26 am    Post subject: RV8- Dimple Question Reply with quote

Stan, thanks for the info. Yes, I think if you have already built an 8a the plans would probably be clear and sufficient, but to a slow county boy they border on Greek in some ways. I found a photo I took at S n F of a 8a bottom and it shows a fiberglass cover for the landing gear that covers the 5 rivet heads so I can see now they are hidden, Best regards, Bill


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:34 am    Post subject: RV8- Dimple Question Reply with quote

Dick, thanks for the info. I'll have to look into the spring type dies. Best regards, Bill


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