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				|  Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:46 am    Post subject: Eggenfelner FWF Probelm - Help! |   |  
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				| A friend is about done with an Eggenflener FWF pacakge in his RV7A and 
has asked me to look into a problem with the electronic/electrical system.
 
 Here's what is being observed, and if anyone has seen anything like
 this, I'd sure like to hear from you before I spend a LOT of time
 studying his manuals to see if I can deduce what the problem is.
 
 With the master switch on, fuel pressures appear normal as shown on his
 EIS and on a mechanical pressure indicator he has added. BUT when he
 switches on the ignition switch, (engine not running)  the EIS shows
 increasing fuel pressures up to over 200PSI, which is wrong since the
 mechanical meter still shows the 31PSI or so that the EIS was showing
 before the ignition switch was placed to "on." The engine starts and
 runs normally. Also indications are abnormal with the fuel pump selector
 placed in the 'auto' position when the EIS voltmeter indication shows an
 increase to 19.5-volts while an analog voltmeter shows a rather normal
 14.3-volts.
 
 Really weird. I am going to spend the afternoon studying the rather
 involved and complex (and sometimes missing) data in his three LARGE
 three-ring binders to see if I can explain his symptoms.
 
 Any assistance would be appreciated.
 
 John
 
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		| Ed Anderson 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:09 am    Post subject: Eggenfelner FWF Probelm - Help! |   |  
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				| John, sounds like the fuel pressure sensor wiring might not be correct.  It 
appears to me that when you turn on the ignition somehow more current is
 flowing in the circuit than the system expects and this is read as more
 pressure from the sensor.  Check the wiring between  the fuel pressure
 sensor and the EIS.
 
 Ed
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 Matthews, NC
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				|  Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject: Eggenfelner FWF Probelm - Help! |   |  
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				| John, first I would suspect a poor ground from the engine to the 
airframe.  Next best guess is a poor ground somewhere else in the
 system.  So, the bill totals to 2 pennies, one for each SWAG
  . Linn
 do not archive
 John Fasching wrote:
 
 
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 A friend is about done with an Eggenflener FWF pacakge in his RV7A and
 has asked me to look into a problem with the electronic/electrical
 system.
 
 Here's what is being observed, and if anyone has seen anything like
 this, I'd sure like to hear from you before I spend a LOT of time
 studying his manuals to see if I can deduce what the problem is.
 
 With the master switch on, fuel pressures appear normal as shown on
 his EIS and on a mechanical pressure indicator he has added. BUT when
 he switches on the ignition switch, (engine not running)  the EIS
 shows increasing fuel pressures up to over 200PSI, which is wrong
 since the mechanical meter still shows the 31PSI or so that the EIS
 was showing before the ignition switch was placed to "on." The engine
 starts and runs normally. Also indications are abnormal with the fuel
 pump selector placed in the 'auto' position when the EIS voltmeter
 indication shows an increase to 19.5-volts while an analog voltmeter
 shows a rather normal 14.3-volts.
 
 Really weird. I am going to spend the afternoon studying the rather
 involved and complex (and sometimes missing) data in his three LARGE
 three-ring binders to see if I can explain his symptoms.
 
 Any assistance would be appreciated.
 
 John
 
 
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		| Dale Ensing 
 
 
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 Location: Aero Plantation Weddington NC
 
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				|  Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:06 pm    Post subject: Eggenfelner FWF Probelm - Help! |   |  
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				| Another thing you might check John, is the proximity of the fuel pressure 
sensor lead to any 'fat' wires. I had a similar experience with my CHT & EGT
 because the sensor wires were too close to the large wire from the battery .
 The sensor wires need to be a minimum of 2 inches away from the magnetic
 field given off the high current wires.
 Dale Ensing
 
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		| marcausman 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: Eggenfelner FWF Probelm - Help! |   |  
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				| John, the fuel pressure sensor is a bit if an oddball because you also need to connect the sensor wire to a resistor, then to a reference voltage pin on the EIS. Suggest reviewing the install diagram and double check. The reference voltage keeps the sensor accurate while voltage fluctuates.
 Also, if you haven't solved it by Monday, call Sandy at GRT and she has seen it all and is very helpful.
 
 Marc
 
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