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jdalton77(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:31 am Post subject: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would yo

Is Barrett Precision Engines high price worth the  money?  Is it safer, faster, stronger, lighter as advertised?

 How about the Lycoming X series?

 Others?

  

 If cost were not the main factor, but quality,  reliability, safety, and weight were, which would you like, regardless of  cost?

  

 Jeff Dalton

 Wings

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bob.kaufmann(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:58 pm Post subject: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would yo

If money were no object I think I would go with a COSMO 20B.  LOL:--)) I am.  

   

Bob K      

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdalton77

 Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 8:24 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would you buy?  

  

  

     

Is Barrett Precision Engines high price worth the money?  Is it safer, faster, stronger, lighter as advertised?  

    

How about the Lycoming X series?  

    

Others?  

    

   

    

If cost were not the main factor, but quality, reliability, safety, and weight were, which would you like, regardless of cost?  

    

   

    

Jeff Dalton  

    

Wings  

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mritter509(at)msn.com
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would yo

I am 100% happy with my IO-540 purchased from Bart at Aero Sport Power.  

Might be a good idea to do a little comparison shopping.  Very nice folks to 

work with.



Mark





[quote]From: Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com>

Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: RE: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine 

  would you buy?

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:31:31 -0500






 >From all my research and talking to people, BPA would be the way to go.



Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

www.saintaviation.com

352-427-0285



Leather interior kit for the RV-10 -

www.saintaviation.com/interior



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apilot2(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would yo

How does Aero Sport Power deal with warranty issues? Any concerns

bringing engine across the border?

On 7/28/07, Mark Ritter <mritter509(at)msn.com> wrote:

[quote] 

 I am 100% happy with my IO-540 purchased from Bart at Aero Sport Power.

 Might be a good idea to do a little comparison shopping.  Very nice folks to

 work with.

 Mark

 >From: Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com>

 >Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 >To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

 >Subject: RE: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine

 >  would you buy?

 >Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:31:31 -0500

 >

 >

 >

 > >From all my research and talking to people, BPA would be the way to go.

 >

 >Jesse Saint

 >Saint Aviation, Inc

 >jesse(at)saintaviation.com

 >www.saintaviation.com

 >352-427-0285

 >

 >Leather interior kit for the RV-10 -

 >www.saintaviation.com/interior

 >

 >--

mritter509(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would yo

No warranty issues as I have had zero problems with my IO-540 from Aero 

Sport and received very quick responses on a  few minor questions.  Bart has 

supported the RV community for quite a few years and his reputation for 

delivering a quality product has stood the test of time.  After 120 hours 

the engine is running smooth and strong.  Low oil consumption and oil 

samples all normal.



Mark

N410MR





[quote]From: "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2(at)gmail.com>

Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine 

would you buy?

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:53:31 -0700






How does Aero Sport Power deal with warranty issues? Any concerns

bringing engine across the border?



On 7/28/07, Mark Ritter <mritter509(at)msn.com> wrote:

 > 

 >

 > I am 100% happy with my IO-540 purchased from Bart at Aero Sport Power.

 > Might be a good idea to do a little comparison shopping.  Very nice 

folks to

 > work with.

 >

 > Mark

 >

 >

 >

 >

 > >From: Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com>

 > >Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 > >To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

 > >Subject: RE: If money were no object which Lycoming-style 

engine

 > >  would you buy?

 > >Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:31:31 -0500

 > >

 > >

 > >

 > > >From all my research and talking to people, BPA would be the way to 

go.

 > >

 > >Jesse Saint

 > >Saint Aviation, Inc

 > >jesse(at)saintaviation.com

 > >www.saintaviation.com

 > >352-427-0285

 > >

 > >Leather interior kit for the RV-10 -

 > >www.saintaviation.com/interior

 > >

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n277dl

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 49
Location: Muscatine IA

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject: Aerosport

Thought I'd pass on my experience with Aerosport.  Not flying a -10 (yet) but have a 7A that I've been flying since 2004.  I bought my engine for my 7A from a guy in Texas who had bought the engine from Aerosport.  He had decided not to finish the 8 that he had started.  Engine had never been installed on the 8 so basically he shipped it to me and I was the first install....



This engine is a IO360A1B6... guess what... remember the AD from Lycoming requiring replacement of the crankshaft.  Well, the crank in my engine was one that had to be replaced.  I called Lycoming a couple times and just got a run around because it was in an experimental engine.  (this was only a couple years ago but before Lycoming had the "X" permintal engines).  I was getting no satisfaction from Lycoming directly and the term "screwed" was beginning to ring loud in my mind.



I called Aerosport hoping they could help me convince Lycoming to help a little.  The answer I got from Aerosport was truly amazing from my perspective.....



Sue at Aerosport was very direct   ... "When you get ready to pull the engine... you just let me know and I'll send you a bill of lading and arrange for pickup.  You let us worry about Lycoming.  We'll pay the shipping both ways.  Just let us know a couple weeks ahead of when you plan to pull the engine and we'll put it to the front of the line and get the engine back asap".



I did exactly that, they did exactly what they said would and I'm one extremely happy in-direct customer.  I'm seriously considering starting a -10 this winter (once the weather gets too nasty to fly much in Iowa) and the first place I'll look for another engine is Aerosport.

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Doug
"Fools" are always more creative than process people and will always find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes.

VHMUM(at)bigpond.com
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would yo

Just bought our second engine from Aerosport....the best people and great 

product.



Chris from Aus

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VHMUM(at)bigpond.com
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:13 am Post subject: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would yo

My first engine developed a slight oil leak at one of the cylinders. There 

fix was get it fixed anywhere I like and they will pay the bill. No dramas 

at all and could not ask for more



I am in Australia



regards Chris



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AirMike

Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 514
Location: Nevada

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:35 am Post subject: If money were no object ......My two cents

I just ordered the Mattituck IO-540 Red/Gold pkg at OSH. I just want a all new 260hp quality engine that I will not have any problems with. They had a great deal for the OSH crowd (-$500 plus free USA shipping) and they seem to be really behind the Red/Gold program. Their warranty is better than Lycoming's (3 yrs from engine start) and they are very flexible on the delivery (any time this year). The engine includes a lot of value added bells and whistles including irridium plugs. There were at least 3 RV10's at OSH with the Red?gold package from Mattituck. I never saw the aerosport or BPE booths at OSH, so I did not get their presentation, but they are there.



Guess that I will just have to see how the engine runs and warranty support.

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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:35 am Post subject: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would yo

Until you place in print where each of the Lycoming based vendors document their product.  We are waiting on apples, oranges, tangerines and kiwis as a discussion point.  It is damned difficult to answer.  

   

In defense of clarity, which of the alternatives to Barrett, provide an owner with a documented Dyno run to establish the pig in a poke? To what gram weight is each component balanced.  When a builder does not care, then Barrett is indeed more expensive.  Another standard is which airshow performers use which RV-10 engine builder?  Which rebuilder gives a complete set of documents, CDROMS and blueprints?  

   

OSH was a pretty fair playing field to get those questions answered.  For price alone, Aerosport has a lot of engines flying in RV-10s.  

   

To avoid being coy.  I selected Barrett, John Forsling and a Lopresti style cowl a long time ago and little has swayed my decision since.  James is no LoPresti cowl.  

   

If Money were not object – the subject line question.  BPAE.  

   

John Cox - 600  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdalton77

 Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:24 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would you buy?  

  

     

Is Barrett Precision Engines high price worth the money?  Is it safer, faster, stronger, lighter as advertised?  

    

How about the Lycoming X series?  

    

Others?  

    

   

    

If cost were not the main factor, but quality, reliability, safety, and weight were, which would you like, regardless of cost?  

    

   

    

Jeff Dalton  

    

Wings  

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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:05 am Post subject: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would yo

The Aero Sport people are "First Rate" with a great track record.

Probably because their's have not been any major problems, consumers

have no idea trying to use US attorneys to recover restitution from

Canadian barristers.  I hear you need to be a blood relative of the

Queen.



Good people, no problem.  Cheap products, quick sale artists and you

will get a quick lesson in International trade.  Tread carefully with

international copies who do not have a US presence so you can file in US

courts if you believe you are harmed.



Great query.



John

Do not Archive



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DAVELEIKAM(at)wi.rr.com
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:18 pm Post subject: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would yo

One thing I came away with from this years show is  that I am going to install an IO-540 of some kind.  BPA or AeroSport both  look good.  I appreciate all the posts on this subject because I was about  to ask the same question.  I am no longer on the fence about  alternatives.  The only question now is certified or  experimental?

  

 Dave Leikam

 40496

 QB Wings

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ron.mcgann(at)baesystems.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would yo

Why is Vans experimental IO-540 direct from Lycoming not  rating a mention here?  I just took delivery of an IO-540 and Hartzell  prop from Vans for almost the same price as a BPA engine (courtesy of a recent  engine price drop and Engine/prop package discount at Vans).  I would  have liked a Barrett engine given unlimited budget, but I don't know  what level of support they can offer customers in the deeeep south.  A  Lycoming branded engine with no middle man should be readily supportable by  engine shops here in Oz and lend themselves to any local performance  enhancements they have to offer. 

  

 cheers,

 Ron in South Australia

 - thinkin' about paint

  



 [quote]         From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave    Leikam

Sent: Monday, 30 July 2007 2:50 PM

To:    rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: If money were no    object which Lycoming-style engine would you buy?

   

   One thing I came away with from this years show    is that I am going to install an IO-540 of some kind.  BPA or AeroSport    both look good.  I appreciate all the posts on this subject because I was    about to ask the same question.  I am no longer on the fence about    alternatives.  The only question now is certified or    experimental?

    

   Dave Leikam

   40496

   QB Wings

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