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randyman(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: XDP4K - Getting a "300 Error" when trying to access CNW Edit

Hello,

  

 I needed to re-configure/re-align my system, so I hooked up my laptop to my XDP-4000x.  It has been over 3 years since I had to do this.  It initially worked fine - I just did a few quick tweaks to the X-Over with the DSC software.  Then, I went back last week, and I was ready to fine tune my system with my RTA ready to go.  Now, when I try to open the DSC "CNW" editor (for X-Over and Delays), I get some kind of "300" error on the laptop, and the DSC application closes out when I click "OK" on the pop-up box.  I can not seem to access any of the XDP's CNW features via the Laptop.  The XDP's CNW Preset Memory is still entact (or else I'd have a paperweight on my hands - arrrrgh!). 

  

 I can access the EQ just fine (adjusting and saving/uploading the EQ works perfectly via the DSC software)!  What is going on???  I also tried another laptop, and I get the same error (only for CNW)?  I also tried to completely power down the C90/XDP (Removed +12v for a few minutes), and I still experienced the same error on both laptops... 

  

 Could this be a Null-Modem Cable issue?  I kind of doubt it as I doubt the CNW editor uses different Serial wires than the EQ editor uses, ya know?  And the fact that this same thing happens on 2 Laptops is odd.

   

 I'd hate to say it, but this might be the final straw for my dear C90/XDP-4000x.  I am inches away from doing a Car-PC (Waiting for the new Panda CT650 LCD Monitor to come out this summer), but I'd really like to get my XDP's x-over and delays tweaked NOW for my new installation  .  I also wanted to use the XDP4K in my other ride (4-Runner 4x4) once I get a Car-PC in this ride (Tacoma 4x4).  That dream may soon be put to rest... 

  

 Thanks for any help from a stuck XDP user.

  

 PS - I was also the guy having iPod issues with my C90/XDP.  I junked the crappy PAC "Aux-In Unilink Adaptor" that was locking up my system in favor of a Sony XA-300.  I still get some weird issues with the motorized face changing angles on its own, but I no longer have the "Freezing" issue on power-up (thank GOD!!!  That was very annoying). 

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Houston, TX

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randyman(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:54 am Post subject: XDP4K - Getting a "300 Error" when trying to access CNW Edit

Thanks for the suggestions, Matt.  One of the laptops was using a USB-to-Serial adaptor (Running XP), and one of the laptops was using a "real" Serial Port (Running Win98).  Tried Compatibility Mode on the XP Machine, no difference.  The older laptop with the Serial Port is the same Laptop I used to setup my XDP system 3-4 years ago, and I have not used that particular laptop for anything else since then (it was a $100  P.O.S. laptop I bought just for programming the XDP!).  

  

 The funny thing is the XP Laptop with the USB-to-Serial adaptor worked initially (I was able to edit my X-Over the first time I hooked it up).  I didn't get any errors until the second time I went to interface the Laptop!  Then neither Laptop woud work... 

  

 Do you think there is a small chance my Null Modem Cable might be bad?  Maybe just passing enough data to allow EQ edits, but not CNW edits w/o errors?  Do you still have a link to who sells the Serial Null-Modem cables compatible with the XDP?  Any other suggestions? 

  

 Thanks again

  

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Houston, TX

Audio-Dude/Musician/Crazy Guy 

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bobbybraun

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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:06 am Post subject: Re: XDP4K - Getting a

It seems you've ruled the computer out as being the culprit, after using two very different systems while making the connection.   



I would start with swapping out the null modem cable, hopefully the problem is as simple (and as cheap) as that.  You might also want to try a different version of the Sony DSC software.  



Otherwise I can see no other solution than sending the 4000x in for repair... Best of luck!

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randyman(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:54 pm Post subject: XDP4K - Getting a "300 Error" when trying to access CNW Edit

Thanks for the inspiration/hope, Bobby  

  

 Do you know of any places that sell Null Modem cables off the top of your head?  I'll do some searching in a moment.  Was there anything specific (besides the "Null Modem" wiring aspect) that I need to verify for XDP Useage? 

  

 Thanks again

  

 Randy V



 

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It seems you've ruled the computer out as being the culprit, after using two very different systems while making the connection.



I would start with swapping out the null modem cable, hopefully the problem is as simple (and as cheap) as that.  You might also want to try a different version of the Sony DSC software. 



Otherwise I can see no other solution than sending the 4000x in for repair... Best of luck!



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bobbybraun

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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 5:02 am Post subject: Re: XDP4K - Getting a

Matt has links to a couple on his site at www.matronics.com/xdp4000x

Here are the shortcuts for your convenience:



http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Product_Id=16633

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Product_Id=16637



Hope you get it working! Best of luck!

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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject: XDP4K - Getting a "300 Error" when trying to access CNW Edit

Thanks Roland.  I recall seeing some discrepancy in Null-Modem Wiring as I searched online (flipping 1 pair or 2 pairs of terminations), so I just wanted to be sure I don't make this issue worse by using the wrong cable. 

  

 I finally found Matt's XDP Page that listed the Belkin model cable, and I ordered one from Provantage for like $8 shipped (F-F DB9 10' Null Modem).  I'm crossing my fingers, but things like this usually aren't such an easy fix for me... 

  

 Beyond that, I might try swapping Unilink cables for the heck of it (but I doubt that would help my problem here).

  

 A CarPC and the Panda Monitor might be happening sooner than I thought 

  

 I'll let you know what happens

  

 Randy Visentine



 

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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:54:16 -0500 



Thanks for the inspiration/hope, Bobby  



Do you know of any places that sell Null Modem cables off the top of your

head?  I'll do some searching in a moment.  Was there anything specific 

(besides the "Null Modem" wiring aspect) that I need to verify for XDP

Useage?



Nah a null modem cable is a null modem cable.  You just need the right ends
	


M/F or whatever the cable has to be, and the right size (can be either 9 pin 

or 25 pin; 25 pin ports only really use 9 pins so I have no clue why they

were ever used on PCs).  You can probably get one from Monoprice

http://www.monoprice.com .



 Roland M.



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