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grantr

Joined: 12 Sep 2007
Posts: 217

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:30 am Post subject: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??

Hi,

 

I am interested in buying a used CGS hawk Arrow II 2000 to 2001 year model however this plane does not have the folding wing option which I need. 

 

Can the folding wing option be added to this plane?

 

If so how easy is the mod?

 

Do the wings fold like a Kolb?

 

Does anyone have the dimensions of the plane when folded L, W, H? 

 

Thanks,

Grant

redeloach(at)fedex.com
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:40 am Post subject: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??

Did you check with CGS? I'll bet Chuck will be happy to answer any and

all questions you have. This will be one sure-fire method to ensure all

answers are accurate. Especially since you rear end is in direct

jeopardy if they are not!



Good luck with your low and slow endeavor!



red   :}



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grantr

Joined: 12 Sep 2007
Posts: 217

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:04 am Post subject: Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??

Yes,

I tried to get in touch with him a few times with no response.

The  contact option on the website gives me an error.



I tried the phone number on the site and I got a bunch or rings and then the V mail last night and left a message with my email and ph number. Called again today at 12:30pm est and got the v mail again with a different message saying he was on the phone. left another message and still no return phone call or email as of 3pm.

grantr

Joined: 12 Sep 2007
Posts: 217

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:16 am Post subject: Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??

never mind he called me as i was typing.

redeloach(at)fedex.com
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??

Needless to say, Chuck is one of the benchmarks of ultralight aviation.

Sorry you had trouble contacting him!



If you can't get the info you are seeking, E-mail me and I'll try to get

it for you.



red  :}



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grantr

Joined: 12 Sep 2007
Posts: 217

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??

Thanks Red,



As I said Chuck did call me back. He  did not recommend the folding wing option because its not any easier than taking the wings off plus the wings can and do get damaged when being trailered with the folding wing.

He also said that the wings can be removed or attached in 20mins .



So it doesn't sound too bad. I think kolb says 10min fold time

ElleryWeld(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??

15 minute fold time  on a kolb I have one,  and fold and unfold every time I fly  I bet your looking more like a half hour on something not designed  like this 

 

 Ellery in Maine

 

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Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:56 am Post subject: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??

TRY a kit fox they really are a nice plane .    when I first  started flying I asked a Challenger owner if I could put his wing on a kolb  Because I wanted a up rite motor with the best soaring wing I could get. thear  is a guy building a folding option for a challenger as well.     Chuck really cant promote a folding wing because they all will bend or  poke a hole in something if they are operated wrong. I cant think of a  folding wing plane that has cables running the flaps or  ailerons.   What good is a folding wing if it makes a plane too wide for a trailer?or  too unstable to role around in a hanger /because you need something to hold the  wing tip from dragging on the ground?  malcolm   michigan



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grantr

Joined: 12 Sep 2007
Posts: 217

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:04 am Post subject: Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??

Who makes the folding wing option for the challenger?

redeloach(at)fedex.com
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??

RANS offers folding wings on the S-12XL. Having had several RANS

products (including the XL) I have never folded the wings. To fold them

is easy. To keep them from damage when folding is the problem! RANS will

tell you that folding is easy, securing is hard.



Kolb has been identified for may years as the "folding wing" flyer...



My current ultralight is a Rotax 277 powered MAX 103 (TEAM). There are

quick disconnects for the ailerons and four spring held pins hold the

wings on. If I just MUST remove the wings it takes 5 minutes. The rudder

and stab are bolted together and then to the airframe. This would take

time to remove, so I normally don't.



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