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fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:31 am Post subject: TurboCad symbols

Bob,



OK, where does one obtain the symbols you use in your drawings so that I can

import and customize my wiring diagrams?  I just bought Turbo Cad 14 but it

doesn't include much for symbols.  At least for what I can find.



Bevan

TurboCad rookie

RV7A waiting for wires

fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:46 am Post subject: Turbocad symbols

There must be a way to copy and move symbols already on the drawing but I

cannot find it if it's there.  There must be others that are or will be on

the steep part of the "learning Cad" curve.  Any advice as to how to quickly

get some drawings done.  I'm beginning to think about just hand drawing

these suckers and getting on with it.  Not very professional looking but

hey, this Cad stuff is adding a lot of time.



Bevan

RV7A waiting for wire and getting frustrated

andrewbutler(at)ireland.c
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:51 am Post subject: Turbocad symbols

Hi Bevan,



   I used Visio. Much easier to learn than AutoCad and it will import CAD drawings. That is what I did and a couple of days ago I posted my design for comments (having saved it to PDF), so you can see the results are just as good as doing it in CAD.



If you end up using Visio, I can send you my visio's if you wish to help you along. There are some idiosyncrasies in the the conversion process.



Don't know how much it costs. 



Andrew.

RV71700, Galway Ireland.

 

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nuckolls.bob(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:17 am Post subject: Turbocad symbols

At 01:44 AM 10/20/2007 -0700, you wrote:



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There must be a way to copy and move symbols already on the drawing but I

cannot find it if it's there.  There must be others that are or will be on

the steep part of the "learning Cad" curve.  Any advice as to how to quickly

get some drawings done.  I'm beginning to think about just hand drawing

these suckers and getting on with it.  Not very professional looking but

hey, this Cad stuff is adding a lot of time.



Bevan

RV7A waiting for wire and getting frustrated


	


    I took some time today to sift through the symbol library,

    rename files for better organization, correct errors

    and delete some junk. The "clean" library is posted at:



http://www.aeroelectric.com/PPS/ACAD_Symbols_Library/Symbols_5.zip

    Bob . . .



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        ( Don't bring me anything but trouble. )

        ( Good news weakens me."               )

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fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:04 pm Post subject: Turbocad symbols

Thanks Bob,



I've downloaded them, unzipped them but cannot open them with Turbo Cad.

Without wasting your time on this , is there a simple off the top of your

head explanation how to get the symbols into a usable format inside the

symbols library?



Thanks



Bevan

fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject: Turbocad symbols

When I try to open a symbol, it says the .DWG file is not a win32

application.  Any thoughts on this?



My computer is a PC if that makes any difference



Bevan

bob(at)bob-white.com
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject: Turbocad symbols

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:07:20 -0700

"B Tomm" <fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net> wrote:



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  When I try to open a symbol, it says the .DWG file is not a win32

 application.  Any thoughts on this?

 

 My computer is a PC if that makes any difference

 

 Bevan


	


Hi Bevan,



You have to associate .dwg with TurboCAD.  I haven't used Windows in

quite a while so I don't know the procedure.  For a symbol library, run

TurboCAD and see what settings they have for libraries. There should be

a way to set the path to the library file.  You may just have to set

the path to the directory where the symbol .dwg files are located, or

there might be an import function of some sort.  While in TurboCAD, you

should be able to open a .dwg file without the association.  That just

lets you run the application by clicking on the data file. Clicking on

a .doc file runs Word for example.



Bob W.



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klehman(at)albedo.net
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: Turbocad symbols

I seem to recall opening two files and just copying symbols one at a 

time from Bob's drawing to my drawing as needed.

Ken

Bob White wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:07:20 -0700

"B Tomm" <fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net> wrote:

>

>

> When I try to open a symbol, it says the .DWG file is not a win32

>application.  Any thoughts on this?

>

>My computer is a PC if that makes any difference

>

>Bevan

>    

>

Hi Bevan,

You have to associate .dwg with TurboCAD.  I haven't used Windows in

quite a while so I don't know the procedure.  For a symbol library, run

TurboCAD and see what settings they have for libraries. There should be

a way to set the path to the library file.  You may just have to set

the path to the directory where the symbol .dwg files are located, or

there might be an import function of some sort.  While in TurboCAD, you

should be able to open a .dwg file without the association.  That just

lets you run the application by clicking on the data file. Clicking on

a .doc file runs Word for example.

Bob W.

jlatimer1(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: Turbocad symbols

 	  Quote: 	
		   Bob White wrote:

 >

 >

 >On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:07:20 -0700

 >"B Tomm" <fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net> wrote:

 >

 >  

 >

 >>

 >>

 >> When I try to open a symbol, it says the .DWG file is not 'a win32

 >>application.  Any thoughts on this?

 >>

 >>My computer is a PC if that makes any difference

 >>

Right click on the file icon.  Select properties and then select "open with" then select turbocad from the list of programs.  There will be a box that you check that makes sure that Windows associates .dwg files with turbocad everytime you try to open a .dwg file.  Hope that works for you.

Jerry

nuckolls.bob(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: Turbocad symbols

At 06:23 PM 10/20/2007 -0400, you wrote:



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I seem to recall opening two files and just copying symbols one at a time 

from Bob's drawing to my drawing as needed.

Ken


	




   I'm not a TurboCAD user so I'm fishing in the dark here

   a bit. The process for using symbols is to first begin

   with a blank drawing. Open TurboCAD then within TurboCAD

   say File_Open and then click on say Wirebook_A_Border.dwg.

   Once the border is brought in, do a File_SaveAs and give

   it a name for a diagram you want to create, say Landing_Lights.

   Save it to a directory OTHER than were your symbol library

   is stored.



   Now, you can Insert_File and pick pieces from the symbol

   library. You'll need a Bus_Tap_Fuse, a switch, a lamp symbol,

   etc. You arrange these blocks on a page and hook them up with

   wires. Then add descriptive text like reference designators,

   part numbers, etc.



   Suggest you begin with one of the Wire Books published on

   the website. Download:



http://www.aeroelectric.com/PPS/ACAD_Wirebook_Samples/SEMINAR.DWG



   into the directory where your wirebook is going tor reside.

   Then open TurboCAD before using TurboCAD to open SEMINAR.DWG.

   Do an immediate SAVEAS under the name for your own wirebook.

   On the pages within this drawing, the majority of what you'll

   need is probably already drawn. Edit this drawing to delete

   features you don't need and add features you will need. You

   "insert" items from the symbol library as needed.



   When I'm teaching AutoCAD, I start with this list of basic

   drawing commands:



AR,        *ARRAY

B,         *BLOCK

WB,        *WRITEBLOCK

BR,        *BREAK

CI,        *CIRCLE

C,         *CHANGE

CH,        *CHAMFER

CO,        *COPY

D,         *DIMSTYLE

DI,        *DIST

DO,        *DONUT

DT,        *DTEXT

E,         *ERASE

ED,        *DDEDIT

EL,        *ELLIPSE

XT,        *EXTEND

EXIT,      *QUIT

F,         *FILLET

H,         *HATCH

I,         *INSERT

IP,        *ISOPLANE

L,         *LINE

LA,        *LAYER

LI,        *LIST

LT,        *LINETYPE

M,         *MOVE

MI,        *MIRROR

OF,        *OFFSET

OS,        *OSNAP

P,         *PAN

PE,        *PEDIT

PL,        *PLINE

PG,       *POLYGON

P,        *PAN

R,         *REDRAW

RG,        *REGEN

RT,       *RECTANGLE

REN        *RENAME

RO,        *ROTATE

S,         *STRETCH

SC,        *SCALE

SCR,       *SCRIPT

T,        *TRIM

V,         *VIEW

XP,         *EXPLODE

Z,         *ZOOM



    Additionally, you'll need to explore and grasp

    the use of object snap commands like



Intersection

Center

End

Tangent

Perpendicular

Nearest



and



Insertion.



   I think you'll find it much easier to modify an existing

   array of pages as opposed to starting from scratch. Do you

   have a TurboCAD tutorial? I just opened my TurboCAD version

   10 that I purchased off Ebay some months ago. It sees to open

   and/or insert items from the symbol library just fine. TurboCAD

   also recognizes the AutoCAD views I assigned to each page

   in the composite drawing . . . I'm pretty sure this software

   will let you do anything needed to craft your own wirebook

   but you'll have to become familiar with the basic drawing

   and editing commands unique to TurboCAD. I was able to copy

   and edit text and print one view at a time to the printer.



   Bob . . .

fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:05 pm Post subject: Turbocad symbols

Bob and all,



Thanks for all the help here.  I worked on it until 3:30 this AM and again

today after a long nap.  I'm doing much better now.   The plan at the moment

is to begin with existing drawings and moving, copying symbols to get it to

be what it needs to be.  So far so good.  A few more hours and I'll be on my

way.  Thanks again for all the input received.  This list is a great

resource.



Bevan

Wires are beginning to know where they are supposed to go.  



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