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		chris Sinfield
 
 
  Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 270 Location: Sydney Australia
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				 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:57 am    Post subject: XL Cable rigging and fairlead | 
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				Hi 
 I have gone over the XL photo guides and I can't find the photos of how the cable rigging is done. Is there a section I have missed ?
 
 Also on 6-B-22 the top center diagram of the rear frame channel 6B5-2 shows a support L angle between 6B5-3 and 6B5-2 is there a photo of this L angle anywhere within the guides?
 
 Chris.
 Sydney
 
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		psm(at)ATT.NET Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:08 am    Post subject: XL Cable rigging and fairlead | 
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				Hi Chris,
 
 I'm afraid you will find as you near completion of your XL that the 
 photo guide is not a complete set of instructions for building the 
 plane.  At some point you must rely only on the drawings.  There is a 
 hint of this in the basic instructions that tell you to consider the 
 photo guide only as a helper while the drawings rule in all cases.
 
 There are a number of standard aircraft mechanical publications that 
 can help you learn how the various bits of hardware are used.  I have 
 the "Standard Aircraft Handbook" by Larry Reithmaier as well as the 
 US FAA publications AC 43.13-1B "Acceptable Methods, Techniques, and 
 Practices" and AC 43.13-2A "Aircraft Alterations".  These 
 publications have lots of good information about how to install and 
 repair things like the cables you mentioned.  When you use the Zenith 
 drawings along with any of the standard publications you should be 
 able to complete your plane.
 
 Good luck,
 
 Paul
 XL fuselage
 At 02:57 AM 11/6/2007, you wrote:
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 Hi
 I have gone over the XL photo guides and I can't find the photos of 
 how the cable rigging is done. Is there a section I have missed ?
 
 Also on 6-B-22 the top center diagram of the rear frame channel 
 6B5-2 shows a support L angle between 6B5-3 and 6B5-2 is there a 
 photo of this L angle anywhere within the guides?
 
 Chris.
 Sydney
 
 
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		Jaybannist(at)cs.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject: XL Cable rigging and fairlead | 
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				Chris,
 
 I don't think that rigging is addressed in the photo guides.  You just have to follow what is shown on 6-B-23.  
 
 I installed the vertical angle shown on 6-B-22.
 
 I also installed a doubler for the elevator fairlead that attaches to bulkhead 6B12-3 (see photo) because others have reported that this one is prone to break off.
 
 Jay in Dallas 601XL N2630J
 
 "chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield(at)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
 
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 Hi 
 I have gone over the XL photo guides and I can't find the photos of how the cable rigging is done. Is there a section I have missed ?
 
 Also on 6-B-22 the top center diagram of the rear frame channel 6B5-2 shows a support L angle between 6B5-3 and 6B5-2 is there a photo of this L angle anywhere within the guides?
 
 Chris.
 Sydney
 
 
 Read this topic online here:
 
 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144104#144104
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:57 am    Post subject: XL Cable rigging and fairlead | 
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				To ad to this I just got to tell ya:
 I ve built three homebuilts and each did the same thing to me.  That is, the 
 plans and info take you thru the "basics" but you must do your own thing in 
 the last  part of construction  design.  Thats why youll never see two 
 exactly alike homebuilts.
 Easy as the manufacturers have made the quick build kits, there is much to 
 do on your own.  Its actually fun to build you own custom aircraft.  When 
 finished, it will fly and systems will work.  The trick is to have a nice 
 looking project.  You dont want to have a ball of spaghetti behind the 
 instrument panel.  Wiring is a pain.....  When people look at your creation 
 you want to hear excellent comments.....
 People who look and say " heck I can do that"  dont have a clue as to the 
 custom work that we put into our projects
 
 Steve
 
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		chris Sinfield
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:48 am    Post subject: XL upper elevator fairlead 6-B-22 | 
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				Hi All 
  on page 6-B-22 of the plans, it shows within the top center diagram of the rear frame channel 6B5-2, a support L angle between 6B5-3 and 6B5-2. The diagram shows the placement of the L angle on the bottom part(6B5-2) but when you go to the 6B5 page and look at the top upper channel (6b5-3) it does not show you how far up this L angle goes? 
 
 What have I missed. Is it shown anywhere else in the plans? how far over from the centerline should it be? 
 
 Is there a photo of this L angle anywhere within the guides or can someone send me a photo? 
 
 Thanks
 Chris
 Sydney
 
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		DaveG601XL
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:51 am    Post subject: Re: XL Cable rigging and fairlead | 
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				Chris,
 
 It is just a support between the two channels.  Make it just long enough to put two rivets on either side using standard rivet spacing.  If I had to guess, I probably made mine extend around 40mm on each allowing for 10mm edge distances and 20 mm between rivets.  Just a guess.
 
 Good luck,
 
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		Dave Nixon
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: XL Cable rigging and fairlead | 
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				That angle bracket has to be installed per plans.  The construction manual doesn't address it. As for cable rigging, after the drawings on page 6B-23 you are pretty much on your own.  In my particular instance, I didn't use  turnbuckles at the 6B-17 Elevator horn.  I used DETAIL "S" instead and put the turnbuckles above the access hole in the rear of the fuselage for ease of adjustment, tension monitoring and double spiral wrapping with .041 wire.  I couldn't even see the the bottom of the 6B-17 elevator horn let alone work on adjusting and safety wiring.  I think Zenith really missed this one. But I figured it out and you can too.  That's why this list works. Also, it is interesting to note that Northern Tool has the same 1/8" cable for a lot less, so if you mess up get it from them after you have checked out their cable. 
 Dave Nixon
 CH 601XL with Jabiru 3300
 90% complete /90% To Go
 
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