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				 Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:03 am    Post subject: Engine stoppage-ethanol blended gas | 
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				Dave,
 
 Adding blue pre-mix oil to auto gas, so that if  alcohol settleout occurs, 
 it can be identified because the settleout will not have the same blue tint 
 as the gas strikes me as a logical option if I have to use an ethanol 
 blended auto gas. Sump testing at the gascolator, filtering fuel and using 
 fresh fuel are all clearly prudent.
 
 Someone on this thread seemed to want to hear real world evidence of a 
 problem with ethanol blended gas before buying into the safety concerns put 
 out by the FAA,  EAA and AOPA. Since I have had engines quit running because 
 of alcohol phase seperation and settleout and did not notice anyone else 
 respond I shared a bit of my experience.
 
 I see using ethanol blended gas in an aircraft somewhat like I see driving 
 under the influence of alcohol.  One may be able to do both for years 
 without incident. However, both do entail some level of increased risk. I am 
 sensitive to the risk of using ethanol blended gas because I have 
 experienced engine stoppage.
 
 Having owned and operated about two dozen planes and lots of boats over 30 
 years I never experienced fuel related engine stoppage until ethanol blended 
 auto gas came into the picture. Now I have and it was obviously and clearly 
 due to phase seperation and settleout of the alcohol-water layer.
 
 The following comments are pure speculation, but might be important. I can 
 rationalize that phase seperation could occur IN FLIGHT as our wing tank 
 fuel temperture decreases with prolonged exposure to the lower temperatures 
 at higher altitudes so that a good sump check prior to departure may not 
 insure against an engine out due to alcohol phase seperation at altitude. 
 Even if this theory makes sense it could probably only occur in rare 
 circumstances when the alcohol was just on the verge of seperation on the 
 ground. Once back on the ground and at warmer temps the equilibrium involved 
 in the settleout may reverse itself and not be apparent to investigators so 
 the cause of engine stoppage might go undocumented and unrecognized within 
 the flying community. If anyone has technical expertise on this please chime 
 in.
 
 Having experienced engine stoppage caused by ethanol blended gas and having 
 read about other problems related to ethanol blended gas, I routinely use a 
 variation of the EAA test for ethanol in auto gas before I buy auto gas and 
 put it in my Kitfox IV with a 912.  I also go out of my way to obtain 
 "straight" gas.
 
 As an aside, I recently returned from a camping, flying, driving tour 
 (over12,000 miles) across the US and flew my Kitfox over some spectacular 
 scenery from the Florida Keys and Dry Tortugas off of Key West,  along the 
 still devastated hurricane Katrina coastline, thru many of our national 
 parks in the southwest including monument valley, Lake Powell, below sea 
 level in Death Valley and into the Grand Canyon, to California's Big Sur 
 coastline and the Golden Gate Bridge. What a kick in a Kitfox!
 
 BJ
 
 
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