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		kearney(at)shaw.ca Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Things to order from Vans and others | 
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				Hi  
    
 I have been wandering through the Van’s website looking for bits and bobs to order along with a replacement for a piece of aluminium I turned into scrap today.  
    
 I noticed that there is an aileron trim kit and was wondering how necessary it is on the -10. Any comments? I seem to remember reading that the aileron trim was not as necessary on the -10 as rudder trim.   
    
 I also saw *somewhere* some barrel connectors used to connect wires between the wings & the fuse. Does anyone have a part number for these connectors?  
    
 Inquiring minds need to know  
    
 Les Kearney  
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		jesse(at)saintaviation.co Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Things to order from Vans and others | 
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				On the connectors, CPC Series 1 or 2 from www.mouser.com.  Stein's molex pin crimp tool is great for the series 1 and the D-sub crimper for series 2 (the Series 2 machined closed barrel pins are the same as the D-sub pins, but are only good up to 20 gauge wire, I think).
 
  Jesse Saint
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 On Feb 24, 2008, at 7:40 PM, Les Kearney wrote:
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 I have been wandering through the Van’s website looking for bits and bobs to order along with a replacement for a piece of aluminium I turned into scrap today.
  
 I noticed that there is an aileron trim kit and was wondering how necessary it is on the -10. Any comments? I seem to remember reading that the aileron trim was not as necessary on the -10 as rudder trim.
  
 I also saw *somewhere* some barrel connectors used to connect wires between the wings & the fuse. Does anyone have a part number for these connectors?
  
 Inquiring minds need to know
  
 Les Kearney
 #40643
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		Albert Gardner
 
  
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Things to order from Vans and others | 
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				Rudder trim is far more of a “nice but not really necessary” option than aileron trim. The trim kit is very easy to install at any point or even after the plane is finished. Put the 5 wire cable in place during construction and plan ahead for space of the IP for a switch and indicator and you would be ready to add trim later. The kit is about $350 ordered as an option. Rudder trim at cruise can be a simple tab or wedge on the rudder as required but many of us would like to have adjustable rudder trim.  
 Albert Gardner  
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		Tim Olson
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Things to order from Vans and others | 
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				I'm not so sure....  If I were to be forced to choose today between
 my rudder trim and my aileron trim, it would be a very hard choice.
 The rudder trim I would never do without if I ever built another plane.
 The spring bias aileron trim though isn't all that fantastic
 in how it works.  The -10 does have long tanks, so fuel imbalance
 can happen pretty easily, so I really don't think I'd build a -10
 without aileron trim either, but I don't find that I use it as much
 as I use my rudder trim.
 
 To me, they're probably both things that would be very smart to
 wire for, because I think most people would really want both once
 they've had the time to fly behind them both.
 
 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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 Albert Gardner wrote:
 [quote] Rudder trim is far more of a “nice but not really necessary” option than 
  aileron trim. The trim kit is very easy to install at any point or even 
  after the plane is finished. Put the 5 wire cable in place during 
  construction and plan ahead for space of the IP for a switch and 
  indicator and you would be ready to add trim later. The kit is about 
  $350 ordered as an option. Rudder trim at cruise can be a simple tab or 
  wedge on the rudder as required but many of us would like to have 
  adjustable rudder trim.
  
  Albert Gardner
  
  N991RV
  
  Yuma, AZ
  
   
  
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		kearney(at)shaw.ca Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Things to order from Vans and others | 
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				Jesse  
    
 Many thanks. This is just what I needed.  
    
 Cheers  
    
 Les  
    
 Do not archive  
    
    
          
   
 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
  Sent: February-24-08 7:25 PM
  To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Things to order from Vans and others  
   
    
 On the connectors, CPC Series 1 or 2 from www.mouser.com.  Stein's molex pin crimp tool is great for the series 1 and the D-sub crimper for series 2 (the Series 2 machined closed barrel pins are the same as the D-sub pins, but are only good up to 20 gauge wire, I think).    
    
           
 Jesse Saint  
     
 Saint Aviation, Inc.  
     
 jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  
     
 Cell: 352-427-0285  
     
 Fax: 815-377-3694  
   
   
     
        
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 Hi  
     
    
     
 I have been wandering through the Van’s website looking for bits and bobs to order along with a replacement for a piece of aluminium I turned into scrap today.  
     
    
     
 I noticed that there is an aileron trim kit and was wondering how necessary it is on the -10. Any comments? I seem to remember reading that the aileron trim was not as necessary on the -10 as rudder trim.  
     
    
     
 I also saw *somewhere* some barrel connectors used to connect wires between the wings & the fuse. Does anyone have a part number for these connectors?  
     
    
     
 Inquiring minds need to know  
     
    
     
 Les Kearney  
     
 #40643  
     
 C-GCWZ (reserved)  
   
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject: Things to order from Vans and others | 
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				Les,  
             One more suggestion… RV-8 QuickBuild?   
             Just a suggestion. What, I’m the only smart ass left on the RV-10 list?  
    
 Robin  
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 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
  Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:19 PM
  To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: RE: Things to order from Vans and others  
   
   
    
 Jesse  
    
 Many thanks. This is just what I needed.  
    
 Cheers  
    
 Les  
    
 Do not archive  
    
    
          
   
 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
  Sent: February-24-08 7:25 PM
  To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Things to order from Vans and others  
   
    
 On the connectors, CPC Series 1 or 2 from www.mouser.com.  Stein's molex pin crimp tool is great for the series 1 and the D-sub crimper for series 2 (the Series 2 machined closed barrel pins are the same as the D-sub pins, but are only good up to 20 gauge wire, I think).    
    
           
 Jesse Saint  
     
 Saint Aviation, Inc.  
     
 jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  
     
 Cell: 352-427-0285  
     
 Fax: 815-377-3694  
   
   
   
        
 On Feb 24, 2008, at 7:40 PM, Les Kearney wrote:  
   
          
 Hi  
     
    
     
 I have been wandering through the Van’s website looking for bits and bobs to order along with a replacement for a piece of aluminium I turned into scrap today.  
     
    
     
 I noticed that there is an aileron trim kit and was wondering how necessary it is on the -10. Any comments? I seem to remember reading that the aileron trim was not as necessary on the -10 as rudder trim.  
     
    
     
 I also saw *somewhere* some barrel connectors used to connect wires between the wings & the fuse. Does anyone have a part number for these connectors?  
     
    
     
 Inquiring minds need to know  
     
    
     
 Les Kearney  
     
 #40643  
     
 C-GCWZ (reserved)  
   
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