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				 Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:07 am    Post subject: Proper Flight Instruction | 
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				Kolb guys,
 
   I am sure I am among many, when it comes to feeling sympathy for Bill's recent mishap.  Truly, it was unfortunate.  (Bill, I'm sorry to hear about your accident.)
 
   It would appear he over-estimated his abilities, and may not have been ready for the flight practices he was 
 engaging in.  Sure enough, crap happens, and now he paid a big price for his "jumping the gun".
 
   Now, before anyone starts complaining about me "kicking a guy when he's down", I DID THE EXACT SAME THING!!" as Bill did.  I was NOT ready to solo an ultralight, but that didn't stop me from trying.  The results were all too common.  Yes, I smashed the ultralight.  Yes, I got hurt.  Took me weeks to recover.  Thank God I got a second chance.  Hurt like a SOB!!
 
   The purpose of this email is to admonish ALL of those who are contemplating flying their own plane to get competent instruction...and complete the flight training, before trying to fly their own craft.  Just because you had some form of previous flight training years earlier, like Bill and I had, doesn't mean you are ready to launch into the wild blue yonder!!  
 
   Again, I am sad to hear about Bill, and especially the recent loss of our fellow Kolber, John  W.  But, we all need to keep in mind this is a VERY unforgiving sport we are involved with.  It requires the utmost in mechanical maintenance, proper skill, and sober judgment.  Many are counting on us to do our best.  Assume nothing.
 
 Not preaching, just commiserating.
 
 Mike Welch
 MkIII building, and not flown yet 
 
   
 
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		Ralph B
 
  
  Joined: 14 Apr 2007 Posts: 367 Location: Mound Minnesota
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Re: Proper Flight Instruction | 
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				mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co 	  | Quote: | 	 		  Kolb guys,
 
   I am sure I am among many, when it comes to feeling sympathy for Bill's recent mishap.  Truly, it was unfortunate.  (Bill, I'm sorry to hear about your accident.)
 
   It would appear he over-estimated his abilities, and may not have been ready for the flight practices he was 
 engaging in.  Sure enough, crap happens, and now he paid a big price for his "jumping the gun".
 
   Now, before anyone starts complaining about me "kicking a guy when he's down", I DID THE EXACT SAME THING!!" as Bill did.  I was NOT ready to solo an ultralight, but that didn't stop me from trying.  The results were all too common.  Yes, I smashed the ultralight.  Yes, I got hurt.  Took me weeks to recover.  Thank God I got a second chance.  Hurt like a SOB!!
 
   The purpose of this email is to admonish ALL of those who are contemplating flying their own plane to get competent instruction...and complete the flight training, before trying to fly their own craft.  Just because you had some form of previous flight training years earlier, like Bill and I had, doesn't mean you are ready to launch into the wild blue yonder!!  
 
   Again, I am sad to hear about Bill, and especially the recent loss of our fellow Kolber, John  W.  But, we all need to keep in mind this is a VERY unforgiving sport we are involved with.  It requires the utmost in mechanical maintenance, proper skill, and sober judgment.  Many are counting on us to do our best.  Assume nothing.
 
 Not preaching, just commiserating.
 
 Mike Welch
 MkIII building, and not flown yet 
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 Mike, this is very good advice and I too flew with only 2 hours of training. I got lucky and only damaged the gear legs. Even with many hours of flying, we all need to be "on our toes" as we have recently seen. There is a local pilot that severed the fingers on his hand in an accident that was completely preventable. He had many hours logged in his flying career.
 
 Ralph
 
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		DAquaNut(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Proper Flight Instruction | 
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				In a message dated 6/16/2008 1:25:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  ul15rhb(at)juno.com writes:
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  Even    with many hours of flying, we all need to be "on our toes" as we have recently    seen. There is a local pilot that severed the fingers on his hand in an    accident that was completely preventable. He had many hours logged in his    flying career.
 
 Ralph | 	              This is so  true. One of our worst enemy's can be complacency  or lack of fear or  respect for what we are doing. This also applies to maintenance big time!   It's a shame it takes  tragedy to wake us up and shake us into reality, but  that's human nature. Lets ALL be careful.    Sorry don.t mean to  preach.
   
   
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		Ricochet
 
 
  Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 36 Location: Fresno, CA
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Proper Flight Instruction | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		   Sold my Firestar to a newly "certified" ultralight pilot who had  
  bent the legs on his instructor's plane when landing.  Every  
  flightof his in "my" Firestar ended the same way, the last mishap  
  putting the kabosh on any more flights in it.  Makes me think his  
  instructor may have certified him to avoid replacing gear on his  
  own plane.  The first through third flights in my Firestar bent the  
  gear from flaring too high.  The last happened after several crow  
  hops down a very long gravel runway, and a final takeoff to go  
  around.  Unfortunately there was little runway left before a barbed  
  wire fence.  When he saw it, he pulled up.  That got his mains over  
  it.  Of course pulling up lowers the tail, so it was the tail that  
  snagged the fence and pulled off several hundred feet before the  
  Kolb slowed and fell out of the sky.  When he called me on his  
  cell, I knew it was bad news since every flight had resulted in a  
  similar phone call and a mishap.  We hopped in a 182 and flew out  
  to him.  He broke a few bones, which put him out of work for  
  awhile...but he's itching to get back into the flying sport again.   
  The Kolb is a taildragger and does take a bit more skill.  Wish I  
  still had it.
 
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 Challenger II cw
 Avid
 Teman
 Hiperlight (2)
 GT 400
 Firestar
 Titan II w Jabiru 3300
 Skyranger
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Mike, this is very good advice and I too flew with only 2 hours of  
  training. I got lucky and only damaged the gear legs. Even with  
  many hours of flying, we all need to be "on our toes" as we have  
  recently seen. There is a local pilot that severed the fingers on  
  his hand in an accident that was completely preventable. He had  
  many hours logged in his flying career.
 
  Ralph
 
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  Ralph B
  Original Firestar 447
  N91493 E-AB
  21 years flying it
  Kolbra 912UL
  N20386
  0 years flying it
 
 
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