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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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 Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:32 am Post subject: SLICK MAGS |
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I'm glad someone has the knowledge and time to ask the question, and you have my thanks for that. I just fly, and don't know may way around the 'system' like I should. If the problem is real ( i really don't know) then it's up to the FAA to find it and issue whatever paperwork it takes us to be safe. I have a new engine coming and don't want to get bad mags with it. Or have to spend additional money to get it fixed!!!
Linn
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RICHARD MILLER wrote: [quote]
sam
how many of us are flying with slicks? alot. how many of us did not know that a mag that passed mag checks would cause high egts while failing.? not many. durring this disaster if have talked to cont, lyc, cpa, unison, faa local fsdo, the aco repsonsible chicago, and faa aco head washington.
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this is a major problem, critical service bulletin, they are adding a second shift to the bendix line.
lyc
this is a major problem, critical service bulletin
cpa
this is a major problem, replace brush with pma from aero accessory 1800-822-3200 no problems. note this does not solve the other problems. bad coils, cases and cams.
unison
we know about the problem, yes there is a problem with manufacturing tolerances, no this is not a defect,"hey right" we will not have a good brush design ready untill augest and are redoing tolling and inspection proceedures.. yes we will continue to ship old stock with the problem, and no recalls are in the works
faa local fsdo
call the aco, lots of help there
aco chicago
we dont see a serious problem and "you have two mags anyways"
washington aco
showed some concern waiting for reponse. they where a little concren about the "you have two mags anyways" line but i question if that was only pr
how many of of us comply with service bulletins, the average feeling is that the faa will issue an ad if there is a real problem. remember ad stands for "after death". if this had happened to a chevy 20 million cars would already be recalled. the service bulletins are required for only one percent of the fleet. but what about the rest. that is why i write this. and if it bothers you sooooooooo much, delete it.
rick
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rickpegser(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: SLICK MAGS |
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current status. the faa is issuing a saib today
rick
--- On Tue, 7/8/08, linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:
| Quote: | From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RE: SLICK MAGS
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 12:51 AM
I'm glad someone has the knowledge and time to ask the question, and you have my thanks for that. I just fly, and don't know may way around the 'system' like I should. If the problem is real ( i really don't know) then it's up to the FAA to find it and issue whatever paperwork it takes us to be safe. I have a new engine coming and don't want to get bad mags with it. Or have to spend additional money to get it fixed!!!
Linn
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RICHARD MILLER wrote: | Quote: |
sam
how many of us are flying with slicks? alot. how many of us did not know that a mag that passed mag checks would cause high egts while failing.? not many. durring this disaster if have talked to cont, lyc, cpa, unison, faa local fsdo, the aco repsonsible chicago, and faa aco head washington.
responses:
cont
this is a major problem, critical service bulletin, they are adding a second shift to the bendix line.
lyc
this is a major problem, critical service bulletin
cpa
this is a major problem, replace brush with pma from aero accessory 1800-822-3200 no problems. note this does not solve the other problems. bad coils, cases and cams.
unison
we know about the problem, yes there is a problem with manufacturing tolerances, no this is not a defect,"hey right" we will not have a good brush design ready untill augest and are redoing tolling and inspection proceedures.. yes we will continue to ship old stock with the problem, and no recalls are in the works
faa local fsdo
call the aco, lots of help there
aco chicago
we dont see a serious problem and "you have two mags anyways"
washington aco
showed some concern waiting for reponse. they where a little concren about the "you have two mags anyways" line but i question if that was only pr
how many of of us comply with service bulletins, the average feeling is that the faa will issue an ad if there is a real problem. remember ad stands for "after death". if this had happened to a chevy 20 million cars would already be recalled. the service bulletins are required for only one percent of the fleet. but what about the rest. that is why i write this. and if it bothers you sooooooooo much, delete it.
rick
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rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: SLICK MAGS |
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I don't understand this issue, could someone explain or point me to a website....apparently a significant problem with Slick Mags??
Ralph Finch
Davis, CA
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Gary.A.Sobek
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: SLICK MAGS |
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http://www.lycoming.textron.com/support/publications/service-bulletins/pdfs/SB58\
4.pdf
http://www.lycoming.textron.com/support/publications/service-bulletins/pdfs/SB58\
3.pdf
One of the Unsion SB was revised 1 July 2008 but IMHO C it was a minor revision.
Only one of my LASAR mags was in the S/N range listed in the Service Bulletins. It took me 1.5 hours to remove C inspect C reinstall and time to the engine. The cowl was off for an oil change.
The cam costs sixty cents and the brush cost less than $6 USD from Aircraft Spruce.
Having an A&P license C the shop manuals and T-100 tool kit C I can service my own. The UNISON LASAR price increase in January 2008 priced the LASAR parts out of reach for most of us. I set my self up so that I can service my own as long as the controller does not go bad.
A homebuilder can do the inspection with a timing box C a Torx driver C and a 4X magnifier. NO other special tools are necessary. The cam is made out of plastic.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell C
2 C115 + Flying Hours So. CA C USA
From: rgf(at)dcn.davis.ca.us
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: SLICK MAGS
Date: Tue C 8 Jul 2008 19:32:01 -0700
I don't understand this issue C could someone explain or point me to a website....apparently a significant problem with Slick Mags??
Ralph Finch
Davis C CA
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rickpegser(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:21 am Post subject: SLICK MAGs |
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if you have a new mag 0806 and on then you are good on the cam and it is just 6 screws. check the sac sky ranch for instructions. trun the brush clockwise it come out easier that way.
rick
--- On Thu, 7/10/08, Robin Marks <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com> wrote:
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Subject: SLICK MAGs
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Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 5:02 PM
| Quote: | | I emailed BPE this morning regarding the joy of having TWO brand spanking new mags that fall under the SB. Rhonda did a little research and found a solution that gets around the SB / future inspections. She OK¢d me to post this to the list: |
Here is the pricing from the local accessory shop in Tulsa, Quality Aircraft Accessories. Replace the carbon brush and cam, including labor for any Slick mag at or around 100 hours for $75/mag. This would be Aero-Accessory replacement parts, so they would not be affected by the SB after the repair.
| Quote: | Justin Hicks at Quality can be reached directly at (918) 835-6948 for assistance. I am not sure what it takes to do this yourself. The SB makes the replacement seem pretty simple. Robin
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