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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:23 am    Post subject: Plane Crash Reply with quote

Can not tell if it is a retract or not. If it is then it is a 172 or 182. 206's are fixed gear and 210's do not have struts. My guess is a Cutlass 172RG.

---- Robin Marks <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com> wrote:
Quote:
Yesterday while flying back from SBP to WHP (a regular commute) I tuned
in to speak with SOCAL traffic. They asked if I had time to look for a
downed plane. I had picked up a strong ELT when I crossed Santa Paula
airport but I assumed someone was either testing their ELT on the
airport or ???. I said sure I have time and would be happy to help.
SOCAL asked me to fly towards the Reagan Presidential Library. I asked
for vectors but they didn't really know however I had some idea and
within 30 seconds located the HUGE building on the top of a hill. I
didn't realize Reagan was such a big reader. From there ATC thought the
plane was about 2 miles west. It took about another 10 seconds to locate
the plane. I expected that it would be VERY difficult to find unless
there was smoke but the plane was lying in a hill side completely intact
and spread eagle so it was a snap to locate. I gave ATC the GPS
coordinates and circled waiting for emergency response vehicles. I was
even able to redirect the response team when they went the wrong way on
a dirt road. It was kind of fun. I told ATC they were going the wrong
way and 10 seconds later I see all the vehicles stop and dust fly up as
they reversed their course. It was difficult to tell from 3,000' but I
suspected the plane was upside down and I think I saw 4-5 people
standing near the nose of the plane. I also saw a truck on the upper
road so I assumed that there were survivors and aid from a local
rancher. I believe the pilot tried to land on the upslope of the small
hill and dug the nose into the hillside putting the Cessna on its back.
Once the police/fire were onsite there was nothing more I could do. ATC
thanked me for my assistance and headed off to complete my flight into
LA.

This morning I found a link with video of the plane and the
results. Note it is NOT a 172 but a retract Cessna, most likely a 206 or
210 (not an expert on Cessna's)



http://cbs2.com/local/Simi.Valley.Crash.2.767545.html







It's obviously too early to know what caused the crash but all I can
think about these days are defective Mags.

While circling the site I had time to think how great owning
an RV-9 or RV-8 with a IO-320 would be to perform this function.
Tremendous plane with excellent visibility and low fuel burn.



Robin

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject: Plane Crash Reply with quote

210's had struts from '57 through '66

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, dsvs(at)ca.rr.com <dsvs(at)ca.rr.com> wrote:
[quote]From: dsvs(at)ca.rr.com <dsvs(at)ca.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Plane Crash
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 12:20 PM

[quote]--> RV-List message posted by: <dsvs(at)ca.rr.com>

Can not tell if it is a retract or not. If it is then it is a 172 or 182.
206's are fixed gear and 210's do not have struts. My guess is a
Cutlass 172RG.

---- Robin Marks <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com> wrote:
Quote:
Yesterday while flying back from SBP to WHP (a regular commute) I tuned
in to speak with SOCAL traffic. They asked if I had time to look for a
downed plane. I had picked up a strong ELT when I crossed Santa Paula
airport but I assumed someone was either testing their ELT on the
airport or ???. I said sure I have time and would be happy to help.
SOCAL asked me to fly towards the Reagan Presidential Library. I asked
for vectors but they didn't really know however I had some idea and
within 30 seconds located the HUGE building on the top of a hill. I
didn't realize Reagan was such a big reader. From there ATC thought
the

[quote] plane was about 2 miles west. It took about another 10 seconds to locate
the plane. I expected that it would be VERY difficult to find unless
there was smoke but the plane was lying in a hill side completely intact
and spread eagle so it was a snap to locate. I gave ATC the GPS
coordinates and circled waiting for emergency response vehicles. I was
even able to redirect the response team when they went the wrong way on
a dirt road. It was kind of fun. I told ATC they were going the wrong
way and 10 seconds later I see all the vehicles stop and dust fly up as
they reversed their course. It was difficult to tell from 3,000' but I
suspected the plane was upside down and I think I saw 4-5 people
standing near the nose of the plane. I also saw a truck on the upper
road so I assumed that there were survivors and aid from a local
rancher. I believe the pilot tried to land on the upslope of the small
hill and dug the nose into the hillside putting the Cessna on its back.
Once the police/fire were onsite there was nothing more I could do. ATC
thanked me for my assistance and headed off to complete my flight into
LA.

This morning I found a link with video of the plane and the
results. Note it is NOT a 172 but a retract Cessna, most likely a [quote][b]


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:20 pm    Post subject: Plane Crash Reply with quote

eah you are right. I did not begin flying till after that, my bad.
---- Skylor Piper <skylor4(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
210's had struts from '57 through '66

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, dsvs(at)ca.rr.com <dsvs(at)ca.rr.com> wrote:
From: dsvs(at)ca.rr.com <dsvs(at)ca.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Plane Crash
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 12:20 PM



Can not tell if it is a retract or not. If it is then it is a 172 or 182.
206's are fixed gear and 210's do not have struts. My guess is a
Cutlass 172RG.

---- Robin Marks <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com> wrote:
> Yesterday while flying back from SBP to WHP (a regular commute) I tuned
> in to speak with SOCAL traffic. They asked if I had time to look for a
> downed plane. I had picked up a strong ELT when I crossed Santa Paula
> airport but I assumed someone was either testing their ELT on the
> airport or ???. I said sure I have time and would be happy to help.
> SOCAL asked me to fly towards the Reagan Presidential Library. I asked
> for vectors but they didn't really know however I had some idea and
> within 30 seconds located the HUGE building on the top of a hill. I
> didn't realize Reagan was such a big reader. From there ATC thought
the
> plane was about 2 miles west. It took about another 10 seconds to locate
> the plane. I expected that it would be VERY difficult to find unless
> there was smoke but the plane was lying in a hill side completely intact
> and spread eagle so it was a snap to locate. I gave ATC the GPS
> coordinates and circled waiting for emergency response vehicles. I was
> even able to redirect the response team when they went the wrong way on
> a dirt road. It was kind of fun. I told ATC they were going the wrong
> way and 10 seconds later I see all the vehicles stop and dust fly up as
> they reversed their course. It was difficult to tell from 3,000' but I
> suspected the plane was upside down and I think I saw 4-5 people
> standing near the nose of the plane. I also saw a truck on the upper
> road so I assumed that there were survivors and aid from a local
> rancher. I believe the pilot tried to land on the upslope of the small
> hill and dug the nose into the hillside putting the Cessna on its back.
> Once the police/fire were onsite there was nothing more I could do. ATC
> thanked me for my assistance and headed off to complete my flight into
> LA.
>
> This morning I found a link with video of the plane and the
> results. Note it is NOT a 172 but a retract Cessna, most likely a 206 or
> 210 (not an expert on Cessna's)
>
>
>
> http://cbs2.com/local/Simi.Valley.Crash.2.767545.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's obviously too early to know what caused the crash but all I can
> think about these days are defective Mags.
>
> While circling the site I had time to think how great owning
> an RV-9 or RV-8 with a IO-320 would be to perform this function.
> Tremendous plane with excellent visibility and low fuel burn.
>
>
>
> Robin
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
>
>







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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Plane Crash Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Plane Crash Reply with quote

[quote]IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 9627B Make/Model: C172 Description: 172, P172, R172, Skyhawk, Hawk XP, Cutla
Date: 07/10/2008 Time: 2346

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Minor Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: FILLMORE State: CA Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT LOST ENGINE POWER, FORCE LANDED IN A FIELD AND FLIPPED OVER, 6
MILES FROM FILLMORE, CA

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 1 Unk:
# Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 1 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

WEATHER: VFR

OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER
FAA FSDO: VAN NUYS, CA (WP01) Entry date: 07/10/2008

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Plane Crash Reply with quote

Odds on it running out of fuel?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: Plane Crash Reply with quote

Good Job, Robin.

Last week we got to play Good Samaritan as well. Returning from lunch at Half Moon Bay, we saw smoke rising in a sparsely inhabited area not far from our flight path, in hilly terrain near the coast. We took a look and saw a grass fire breaking out next to the driveway of a pretty big house, maybe a mile from the town of La Honda. We reported it to NorCal Approach, who asked us to circle it and squawk a code. While circling, we saw 2 cars leave the garage *hastily* as the fire grew. NorCal came back and said they had notified the county, and a couple turns later we saw fire trucks leaving town headed for the fire.

I don't know if we were the first to report it but I can only hope the homeowner heard that some small plane might have helped in some way--we need all the good press we can get!

Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:52 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Plane Crash


Yesterday while flying back from SBP to WHP (a regular commute) I tuned in to speak with SOCAL traffic. They asked if I had time to look for a downed plane. I had picked up a strong ELT when I crossed Santa Paula airport but I assumed someone was either testing their ELT on the airport or ???. I said sure I have time and would be happy to help. SOCAL asked me to fly towards the Reagan Presidential Library. I asked for vectors but they didn’t really know however I had some idea and within 30 seconds located the HUGE building on the top of a hill. I didn’t realize Reagan was such a big reader. From there ATC thought the plane was about 2 miles west. It took about another 10 seconds to locate the plane. I expected that it would be VERY difficult to find unless there was smoke but the plane was lying in a hill side completely intact and spread eagle so it was a snap to locate. I gave ATC the GPS coordinates and circled waiting for emergency response vehicles. I was even able to redirect the response team when they went the wrong way on a dirt road. It was kind of fun. I told ATC they were going the wrong way and 10 seconds later I see all the vehicles stop and dust fly up as they reversed their course. It was difficult to tell from 3,000’ but I suspected the plane was upside down and I think I saw 4-5 people standing near the nose of the plane. I also saw a truck on the upper road so I assumed that there were survivors and aid from a local rancher. I believe the pilot tried to land on the upslope of the small hill and dug the nose into the hillside putting the Cessna on its back. Once the police/fire were onsite there was nothing more I could do. ATC thanked me for my assistance and headed off to complete my flight into LA.
  This morning I found a link with video of the plane and the results. Note it is NOT a 172 but a retract Cessna, most likely a 206 or 210 (not an expert on Cessna’s)

http://cbs2.com/local/Simi.Valley.Crash.2.767545.html

[img]cid:359021605(at)11072008-1B3C[/img]

It’s obviously too early to know what caused the crash but all I can think about these days are defective Mags.
  While circling the site I had time to think how great owning an RV-9 or RV-8 with a IO-320 would be to perform this function. Tremendous plane with excellent visibility and low fuel burn.

Robin
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Plane Crash Reply with quote

Way to go Dave.
I have to get up to Half Moon Bay sometime soon. Any place to stay other than the Ritz?

Robin

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From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 7:28 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Plane Crash



Good Job, Robin.

Last week we got to play Good Samaritan as well. Returning from lunch at Half Moon Bay, we saw smoke rising in a sparsely inhabited area not far from our flight path, in hilly terrain near the coast. We took a look and saw a grass fire breaking out next to the driveway of a pretty big house, maybe a mile from the town of La Honda. We reported it to NorCal Approach, who asked us to circle it and squawk a code. While circling, we saw 2 cars leave the garage *hastily* as the fire grew. NorCal came back and said they had notified the county, and a couple turns later we saw fire trucks leaving town headed for the fire.

I don't know if we were the first to report it but I can only hope the homeowner heard that some small plane might have helped in some way--we need all the good press we can get!

Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com


From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:52 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Plane Crash
Yesterday while flying back from SBP to WHP (a regular commute) I tuned in to speak with SOCAL traffic. They asked if I had time to look for a downed plane. I had picked up a strong ELT when I crossed Santa Paula airport but I assumed someone was either testing their ELT on the airport or ???. I said sure I have time and would be happy to help. SOCAL asked me to fly towards the Reagan Presidential Library. I asked for vectors but they didn’t really know however I had some idea and within 30 seconds located the HUGE building on the top of a hill. I didn’t realize Reagan was such a big reader. From there ATC thought the plane was about 2 miles west. It took about another 10 seconds to locate the plane. I expected that it would be VERY difficult to find unless there was smoke but the plane was lying in a hill side completely intact and spread eagle so it was a snap to locate. I gave ATC the GPS coordinates and circled waiting for emergency response vehicles. I was even able to redirect the response team when they went the wrong way on a dirt road. It was kind of fun. I told ATC they were going the wrong way and 10 seconds later I see all the vehicles stop and dust fly up as they reversed their course. It was difficult to tell from 3,000’ but I suspected the plane was upside down and I think I saw 4-5 people standing near the nose of the plane. I also saw a truck on the upper road so I assumed that there were survivors and aid from a local rancher. I believe the pilot tried to land on the upslope of the small hill and dug the nose into the hillside putting the Cessna on its back. Once the police/fire were onsite there was nothing more I could do. ATC thanked me for my assistance and headed off to complete my flight into LA.
  This morning I found a link with video of the plane and the results. Note it is NOT a 172 but a retract Cessna, most likely a 206 or 210 (not an expert on Cessna’s)

http://cbs2.com/local/Simi.Valley.Crash.2.767545.html

[img]cid:image001.jpg(at)01C8E32D.02CCF880[/img]
 
It’s obviously too early to know what caused the crash but all I can think about these days are defective Mags.
  While circling the site I had time to think how great owning an RV-9 or RV-8 with a IO-320 would be to perform this function. Tremendous plane with excellent visibility and low fuel burn.

Robin
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Plane Crash Reply with quote

The Zaballa House is a great B&B downtown. In addition to the B&B portion they have a few rooms that are more like a traditional hotel.
 
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Subject: RE: Plane Crash
Date: Fri C 11 Jul 2008 11:06:24 -0400
From: robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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Way to go Dave.
I have to get up to Half Moon Bay sometime soon. Any place to stay other than the Ritz?
 
Robin
 
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From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor
Sent: Friday C July 11 C 2008 7:28 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Plane Crash


 
Good Job C Robin.
 
Last week we got to play Good Samaritan as well.  Returning from lunch at Half Moon Bay C we saw smoke rising in a sparsely inhabited area not far from our flight path C in hilly terrain near the coast.  We took a look and saw a grass fire breaking out next to the driveway of a pretty big house C maybe a mile from the town of La Honda.  We reported it to NorCal Approach C who asked us to circle it and squawk a code.  While circling C we saw 2 cars leave the garage *hastily* as the fire grew.  NorCal came back and said they had notified the county C and a couple turns later we saw fire trucks leaving town headed for the fire.
 
I don't know if we were the first to report it but I can only hope the homeowner heard that some small plane might have helped in some way--we need all the good press we can get!
 
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville C CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
 

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Thursday C July 10 C 2008 10:52 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Plane Crash
Yesterday while flying back from SBP to WHP (a regular commute) I tuned in to speak with SOCAL traffic. They asked if I had time to look for a downed plane. I had picked up a strong ELT when I crossed Santa Paula airport but I assumed someone was either testing their ELT on the airport or ???.  I said sure I have time and would be happy to help. SOCAL asked me to fly towards the Reagan Presidential Library. I asked for vectors but they didn’t really know however I had some idea and within 30 seconds located the HUGE building on the top of a hill. I didn’t realize Reagan was such a big reader. From there ATC thought the plane was about 2 miles west. It took about another 10 seconds to locate the plane. I expected that it would be VERY difficult to find unless there was smoke but the plane was lying in a hill side completely intact and spread eagle so it was a snap to locate. I gave ATC the GPS coordinates and circled waiting for emergency response vehicles. I was even able to redirect the response team when they went the wrong way on a dirt road. It was kind of fun. I told ATC they were going the wrong way and 10 seconds later I see all the vehicles stop and dust fly up as they reversed their course. It was difficult to tell from 3 C000’ but I suspected the plane was upside down and I think I saw 4-5 people standing near the nose of the plane. I also saw a truck on the upper road so I assumed that there were survivors and aid from a local rancher. I believe the pilot tried to land on the upslope of the small hill and dug the nose into the hillside putting the Cessna on its back. Once the police/fire were onsite there was nothing more I could do. ATC thanked me for my assistance and headed off to complete my flight into LA.
            This morning I found a link with video of the plane and the results. Note it is NOT a 172 but a retract Cessna C most likely a 206 or 210 (not an expert on Cessna’s)
 
http://cbs2.com/local/Simi.Valley.Crash.2.767545.html
 
[img]cid:image001.jpg(at)01C8E32D.02CCF880[/img]
     
It’s obviously too early to know what caused the crash but all I can think about these days are defective Mags.
            While circling the site I had time to think how great owning an RV-9 or RV-8 with a IO-320 would be to perform this function. Tremendous plane with excellent visibility and low fuel burn.
 
Robin
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