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		czech6(at)mesanetworks.ne Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:46 am    Post subject: Listen to this! | 
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				From: garypwhite(at)juno.com [mailto:garypwhite(at)juno.com] 
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				 Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:53 am    Post subject: Listen to this! | 
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				Why???
   
  What the ^#$* does this have to do with the Yak  List?
   
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		czech6(at)mesanetworks.ne Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Listen to this! | 
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				And the one wing landing for a week or more?  
    
 Walt, take a chill pill.  
          
   
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 What the ^#$* does this have to do with the Yak List?  
     
    
     
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		steve.fox(at)mac.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Listen to this! | 
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				Happy to tell you what I think in a few words - Take it off the list. It has naught to do with flying, Yaks or CJs
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				 Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Listen to this! | 
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				Out of curiosity, how many read the comparison of views on General Aviation by the two candidates in the AOPA newsletter that came out last weekend? What we are facing with this upcoming election will have everything to do with our flying CJ’s and YAKs over the next 3 years. It is not only our privilege to fly CJ’s and YAKs freely in our US skies that will be under attach. It’s our 1st and 2nd amendment rights that are also coming under attach but this all that I’m saying on this subject since the “list” is only for YAK and CJ discussion. No advertising and not a disparaging word should be spoken. That way we will not have to pull our heads out of the sand to face the reality of what is at stake in this impending perfect political storm that has not been seen on the international scene in 60 years.  For those interested, I’ll be happy to provide information on what a pathological narcissistic personality disorder is but as a hint names like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Jim Baker (Guiana fame) all come to mind.  
 Go on line and read the AOPA article on the views of the two candidates then go vote your condense on 4 Nov 08. I promise this is the last political comment I’ll make on the “list”.  
  I empathize with Bill Geipel concerning his post and understand fully what he was feeling in his gut when he felt compelled to post it. WE are all sick of politics but hopefully not to the point of sticking our heads in the sand because this election will affect the future of our flying freedom among others.    
 But…what the Hey! Texas Tech just knocked off Texas! In the AM, Alabama will be #1 in the NCAA! Roll DAMNED TIDE from a Red Neck that clings to his Bible and Guns! This did not have anything to do with flying either but neither does  the 100 uses of MMO.  
 Just go vote on Tuesday.  
 Doc   
        
 From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Fox
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 Happy to tell you what I think in a few words - Take it off the list. It has naught to do with flying, Yaks or CJs    
    
     
        
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: Listen to this! | 
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				No offense Steve but neither does a 9 line signature. kidding! OK
 
 IMO, as a new guy to this community, but not aviation, is that many folks on this list don't have the social luxury of hanging around fellow pilots as many of us do. Whether it's at a lively airport, an airline layover or drill weekend, pilots generally (sadly?) really enjoy each others company. Put two pilots together and what will they talk about 100% of the time.....planes, flying and maybe women.
 
 Now I didn't read the last post that "has nothing to do with yaks or cjs" which is the easiest thing to do If something on this board doesn't appeal to you. I did read the posts on the missing wing hoax and curiously enough when I showed up for my last airline trip there were half a dozen pilots hovered around a computer watching it and judging it's merits.
 
 Soooo, this list may be a GREAT source of technical info but it's also somewhat of a social venue for many of our own.
 
 That said, I agree with Czech6, settle down for crying out loud and let's enjoy each others company just as we do in the air. The last thing anyone should want to do is alienate a Yak/CJ guy from coming to this BB.
 
 I'm goin' flying.
 
 Keith
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Listen to this! | 
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				Guys, 
 Here are some e-group observations gathered from eight years on the Bearhawk
 list (which has grown to just under 1,500 members) and how they handled the
 social, off-topic and on-topic stuff.
 
 First, the original focus of the group was/is the Bearhawk homebuilt
 airplane (4-place, utility/bush bird). As time went by, however, it became
 obvious that the membership included everyone from Alaska bush types to
 aeronautical engineers, to Edwards AFB flight test types, to doctors,
 lawyers and some Indian chiefs (not actually chiefs, but Indians). The
 amount of knowledge and experience on the group is staggering.
 
 It didn't take long before they started asking non-Bearhawk questions and
 similar comments to the point that the overall feeling is one of of a bunch
 of guys sitting in front of a hangar talking about what ever is on their
 mind. So, at any given time we have two or three threads going at one time.
 I remember at one time we had a discussion on how to reduce the oxidation at
 the edge of a TIG weld on aluminum, what was the best to carry in your
 aircraft to protect against Grizzlies, shot gun with slugs or a big bore
 lever gun (.45-70, etc.), and the last was a erudite discussion of how it
 was felt that the electoral college was no longer relevant in this day and
 time. No subject is left untouched and the only hard and fast rule everyone
 adheres to is that civility rules and no one can flame another guy. The
 result has been that the members count each other as being best friends,
 even though many of us haven't met face to face.
 
 With that many members, the traffic is high and it was decided the best way
 to keep from POing members who only wanted Bearhawk info was, as I've said
 here before, to put OT, for Off Topic in the subject line. That way you can
 simply delete, or set your e-mail filter to kill all OTs, which some do.
 
 The only reason I bring this up is that I see in this group the same diverse
 backgrounds and skills and I see the same possibility for animosity toward
 those who post off topic subjects. Truth is, I personally count on the
 Bearhawk e-group for better, more immediate information than I do Google. If
 I want to know the yield strengh of 1018 steel, someone will spit it right
 back. If I want to know Obama/McCain's take on anything, it'll come back
 condensed and coherent with no politispeak involved. A specific question of
 ANY kind on ANY subject will get a specific answer.
 
 I'd suggest that this group decide amongst ourselves whether we want to keep
 on one side of the YAK/CJ fence, or avail ourselves of the knowledge that's
 on the other side, as represented by the membership, by allowing off topic
 conversation (Civil conversation only) and marking it as such. It has to be
 agreed upon so, either way, at least posters know the rules of the road.
 
 Just tossing in my two-cents.
 
 bd
 On 11/2/08 8:52 AM, "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley(at)townisp.com> wrote:
 
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  No offense Steve but neither does a 9 line signature. kidding! OK
  
  IMO, as a new guy to this community, but not aviation, is that many folks on
  this list don't have the social luxury of hanging around fellow pilots as many
  of us do. Whether it's at a lively airport, an airline layover or drill
  weekend, pilots generally (sadly?) really enjoy each others company. Put two
  pilots together and what will they talk about 100% of the time.....planes,
  flying and maybe women.
  
  Now I didn't read the last post that "has nothing to do with yaks or cjs"
  which is the easiest thing to do If something on this board doesn't appeal to
  you. I did read the posts on the missing wing hoax and curiously enough when I
  showed up for my last airline trip there were half a dozen pilots hovered
  around a computer watching it and judging it's merits.
  
  Soooo, this list may be a GREAT source of technical info but it's also
  somewhat of a social venue for many of our own.
  
  That said, I agree with Czech6, settle down for crying out loud and let's
  enjoy each others company just as we do in the air. The last thing anyone
  should want to do is alienate a Yak/CJ guy from coming to this BB.
  
  I'm goin' flying.
  
  Keith
  700HS
  
  
  
  
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