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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:33 pm    Post subject: Null Modem Cable Reply with quote

No, you really do need a null-modem cable, *not* just a cable that has a female DB9 on each end. Looks like these cables are still available from Belkin:

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Product_Id=16633

This is the exact cable I have and it works great.

Matt
At 12:18 PM 2/6/2009 Friday, you wrote:
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Hello Everyone,

I am seeking some help I have a CDX-C90 and XDP-4000x I have tried multiple Null modem cables with my Dell D610 laptop and I cannot get the software to see the xdp-4000x my computer says com1 is operating normally I have tried changing drivers the the serial port and it still does not work. I have tried the matronics software and the original DSC software uninstalled re-installed still nothing. I have been speaking to another user of the xdp-4000x and he is leading me to believe The whole "Null" cable thing is BS and he uses a plain old RS232 Db9 serial cable without any issues. Now is it possible I am having an issue with the actual connection on the XDP-4000x ?? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:47 pm    Post subject: Null Modem Cable Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies everyone I have exact belkin null cable no luck any chance I need to downgrade drivers for the com port ? Am I missing something in the software. I am running windows xp pro.

Again thank you so much for the info guys

Sent from my iPod

On Feb 6, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> wrote:



No, you really do need a null-modem cable, *not* just a cable that has a female DB9 on each end. Looks like these cables are still available from Belkin:

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Product_Id=16633

This is the exact cable I have and it works great.

Matt
At 12:18 PM 2/6/2009 Friday, you wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I am seeking some help I have a CDX-C90 and XDP-4000x I have tried multiple Null modem cables with my Dell D610 laptop and I cannot get the software to see the xdp-4000x my computer says com1 is operating normally I have tried changing drivers the the serial port and it still does not work. I have tried the matronics software and the original DSC software uninstalled re-installed still nothing. I have been speaking to another user of the xdp-4000x and he is leading me to believe The whole "Null" cable thing is BS and he uses a plain old RS232 Db9 serial cable without any issues. Now is it possible I am having an issue with the actual connection on the XDP-4000x ?? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Null Modem Cable Reply with quote

Do you have another computer you can try it on? XP should work fine. I've heard of only one fellow that had a RS232 port burned out on the 4x. But generally, the RS232 port on the 4k is pretty robust. I would try it from a different computer.

Matt

At 05:46 PM 2/6/2009 Friday, you wrote:
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Thanks for the replies everyone I have exact belkin null cable no luck any chance I need to downgrade drivers for the com port ? Am I missing something in the software. I am running windows xp pro.

Again thank you so much for the info guys

Sent from my iPod

On Feb 6, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> wrote:



No, you really do need a null-modem cable, *not* just a cable that has a female DB9 on each end. Looks like these cables are still available from Belkin:

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Product_Id=16633

This is the exact cable I have and it works great.

Matt
At 12:18 PM 2/6/2009 Friday, you wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I am seeking some help I have a CDX-C90 and XDP-4000x I have tried multiple Null modem cables with my Dell D610 laptop and I cannot get the software to see the xdp-4000x my computer says com1 is operating normally I have tried changing drivers the the serial port and it still does not work. I have tried the matronics software and the original DSC software uninstalled re-installed still nothing. I have been speaking to another user of the xdp-4000x and he is leading me to believe The whole "Null" cable thing is BS and he uses a plain old RS232 Db9 serial cable without any issues. Now is it possible I am having an issue with the actual connection on the XDP-4000x ?? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Null Modem Cable Reply with quote

I couldn't get it to work from my desk top (long cord!) which has xp about 4
years ago. Someone here tried to help me to get it to work (theirs worked
with XP) but I ended up getting an old school lap top
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:37 am    Post subject: Null Modem Cable Reply with quote

I have a 25 ft null cable coming It will reach from my desktop to my car I'll try that and let you know....

Thanks again guys

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From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Null Modem Cable
To: xdp4000x-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 9:23 PM

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Do you have another computer you can try it on? XP should work fine. I've
heard of only one fellow that had a RS232 port burned out on the 4x. But
generally, the RS232 port on the 4k is pretty robust. I would try it from a
different computer.

Matt

At 05:46 PM 2/6/2009 Friday, you wrote:
Quote:
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Steve Krell
<stevekrell3(at)yahoo.com>

Quote:

Thanks for the replies everyone I have exact belkin null cable no luck any
chance I need to downgrade drivers for the com port ? Am I missing something in

the software. I am running windows xp pro.
Quote:

Again thank you so much for the info guys

Sent from my iPod

On Feb 6, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> wrote:

--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
<dralle(at)matronics.com>

Quote:

No, you really do need a null-modem cable, *not* just a cable that has a
female DB9 on each end. Looks like these cables are still available from

Belkin:
Quote:


http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Product_Id=16633

Quote:

This is the exact cable I have and it works great.

Matt
At 12:18 PM 2/6/2009 Friday, you wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I am seeking some help I have a CDX-C90 and XDP-4000x I have tried multiple
Null modem cables with my Dell D610 laptop and I cannot get the software to see

the xdp-4000x my computer says com1 is operating normally I have tried changing
drivers the the serial port and it still does not work. I have tried the
matronics software and the original DSC software uninstalled re-installed still
nothing. I have been speaking to another user of the xdp-4000x and he is leading
me to believe The whole "Null" cable thing is BS and he uses a plain
old RS232 Db9 serial cable without any issues. Now is it possible I am having an
issue with the actual connection on the XDP-4000x ?? Any help would be
appreciated.
Quote:

Thanks

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:33 am    Post subject: Null Modem Cable Reply with quote

Under Windows XP I have never had any luck getting Com4 to work, but 1-3 have always been fine for me. Are you using a USB>Serial converter? If so try booting your computer with as little connected to it as possible (Even disconnect your mouse if possible and wait until everything boots, this will help assure that the Serial Port gets assigned the lowest number possible). Go to the Device Manager and make sure the port you're connecting to is assigned one of the Com 1-3 ports. If it is not you will have to reassign it or you'll never get it to work properly. Once everything matches up in the control panel, boot the Sony software using the same com port # and all should be good. Best of luck to you!

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