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jhnstniii(at)aol.com
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 Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:42 pm Post subject: Pilot certificate with English proficiency statement needed |
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Listers--I just got back from flight instructor refresher training and we were informed that in order to use your US pilot certificate abroad, you need the new kind with the statement on it that you are proficient in English. We were advised that we have until the end of March 2009 to get on the FAA web site and order a replacement certificate with this language on it. The cost is two dollars ($2.00), payable by credit card. I just did it. In case you are interested, here's how you do it:
Go to www.faa.gov
Click on:
Licenses and certificates.
Airmen certification.
Order a replacement certificate.
Enter your info and register if you don't already have an account.
Assuming you're establishing your account for the first time, go to your e-mail account and retrieve your new password.
Click on the link to go back to the FAA site.
Log in to airmen services using your new password.
Put as your reason for ordering a replacement certificate: "English proficiency."
Go through the credit card payment screens and pay.
Wait for your replacement certificate (it will be the plastic kind) to arrive in the mail, they say in two weeks.
Hope this is useful to you.
You will need this to fly in Canada, for example. Not sure what you do after the end of this month if you don't do this before then and you want to fly to Canada, or Mexico etc.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:40 am Post subject: Re: Pilot certificate with English proficiency statement nee |
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If you do it online how do they know that you know how to speak English?
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mendper(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:07 am Post subject: Pilot certificate with English proficiency statement needed |
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Speaking English is a requirement "cine qua non" for the issuance of an FAA pilot's license. Sort of ”no speako, no piloto".<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
Sec 61.103 Eligibility requirements: General.
To be eligible for a private pilot certificate, a person must-- - Be at least 17 years of age, except that a private pilot certificate with a free balloon or a glider rating only may be issued to a qualified applicant who is at least 16 years of age;
- Be able to read, speak, and understand the English language, or have such operating limitations placed on his pilot certificate as are necessary for the safe operation of aircraft, to be removed when he shows that he can read, speak, and understand the English language;
- Hold at least a current third-class medical certificate issued under Part 67 of this chapter, or, in the case of a glider or free balloon rating, certify that he has no known medical defect that makes him unable to pilot a glider or free balloon, as appropriate;
- Pass a written test on the subject areas on which instruction or home study is required by Sec. 61.105;
- Pass an oral and flight test on procedures and maneuvers selected by an FAA inspector or examiner to determine the applicant's competency in the flight operations on which instruction is required by the flight proficiency provisions of Sec. 61.107; and
- Comply with the sections of this part that apply to the rating he seeks.
Since you already have a license, the FAA has already recognized your ability to speak English; It's just a matter of stamping it in your ticket.
In Europe they will retest you every given number of years according to the demonstrated proficiency level.
It is ironic, that, being a foreigner, I’ve got no limitations on my FAA license, and on my JAA license I was given an automatic Level 4 (because I held an International Radiotelephone Rating), pending retesting in 3 years. Level 5 is renewed every 6 years and Level 6 doesn´t require renewal. I hope to make it to level 6 in my test, in March 2011, because a test in France, for instance, costs 150 € (US$190); over here, it will probably cost me something between an arm and a leg...
In the US, the process is easy and cheap; as usual, you keep on leading the way... in aviation, as well as in many other areas.
Fly safely
Antonio
Portugal
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thilo.kind(at)gmx.net
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am Post subject: Pilot certificate with English proficiency statement needed |
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Hi there,
A scale from 1 to 6 is used for the English proficiency level (6 being the
best level i.e. mother tongue). Most countries require at least a level 4
for piloting and radioing in English.
The FAA assumes, that since you earned your pilot certificate you have at
least a proficiency level of 4 - it's stated on the new pilot license.
I got already one - since I changed from my SSN to a new number it was even
free of charge. I'm currently living and flying in Germany so it was either
a new license or a rather involved English proficiency test...
Thilo
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mendper(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:37 am Post subject: Pilot certificate with English proficiency statement needed |
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Hi Thilo,
Having English as your native language doesn't imply a level 6 on your aeronautical English test.
The test is not meant to evaluate your colloquial, grammar, or vocabulary skills. It will challenge your ability to listen, understand, and read back clearances, read charts, etc.
Being an American, Canadian, Australian or even British, does not "per se" guarantee level 6 on your exam.
The level of proficiency on your US license is level six; otherwise, it would have a validity date with it.
Take care
Antonio
Portugal
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From: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind(at)gmx.net>
To: <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:25 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Pilot certificate with English proficiency statement needed
[quote] --> RV-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind(at)gmx.net>
Hi there,
A scale from 1 to 6 is used for the English proficiency level (6 being the
best level i.e. mother tongue). Most countries require at least a level 4
for piloting and radioing in English.
The FAA assumes, that since you earned your pilot certificate you have at
least a proficiency level of 4 - it's stated on the new pilot license.
I got already one - since I changed from my SSN to a new number it was even
free of charge. I'm currently living and flying in Germany so it was either
a new license or a rather involved English proficiency test...
Thilo
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