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kearney

Joined: 20 Sep 2008
Posts: 563

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:39 pm Post subject: Door Fit

Hi  

   

As I work to fit my doors, I have come to realize that getting the door pins into the guides will be a bit of a problem. This will be especially so when the weather seals are installed. The doors fit quite well at present but do require that they be pulled in, for and aft. Unless I grow a third hand, this could be a bit of a problem. I will be seeing if I can adjust the door fit to alleviate this issue, but if not I am wondering what others have done to deal with this problem.  

   

Inquiring minds need to know…  

   

Cheers  

   

Les  

#40643 – Living in a f/g world  

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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject: Door Fit

Oh yeah...but as the seals break in it gets easier...can't add much cept yup, that's how they are...back to assembly...woo hoo!!!l lookin like a plane!!Rick SkedDo not archive

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From:  "Les Kearney" 

Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:36:17 -0600

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: RV10-List: Door Fit

  

Hi 

  

As I work to fit my doors, I have come to realize = that getting the door pins into the guides will be a bit of a problem. This = will be especially so when the weather seals are installed. The doors fit quite = well at present but do require that they be pulled in, for and aft. Unless I = grow a third hand, this could be a bit of a problem. I will be seeing if I can = adjust the door fit to alleviate this issue, but if not I am wondering what = others have done to deal with this problem. 

  

Inquiring minds need to = know… 

  

Cheers 

  

Les 

#40643 – Living in a f/g = world 

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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:08 pm Post subject: Door Fit

That is the reason for the bevel on the pin. The tip of the  pin in the hole starts the process and the bevel pulls it in the hole. doors  will be quite tight to start and one will be easier to close than the other.  They will close more easily as used.

   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les  Kearney

Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:36 PM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Door  Fit

Hi 

As I work to fit my doors, I have  come to realize that getting the door pins into the guides will be a bit of a  problem. This will be especially so when the weather seals are installed. The  doors fit quite well at present but do require that they be pulled in, for and  aft. Unless I grow a third hand, this could be a bit of a problem. I will be  seeing if I can adjust the door fit to alleviate this issue, but if not I am  wondering what others have done to deal with this  problem. 

Inquiring minds need to  know… 

Cheers 

Les 

#40643 – Living in a f/g  world

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:20 pm Post subject: Door Fit

They get better but the action you use is pull in and forward on the handle and that brings the back one in too.  The seals work REAL well so for us northerners it's nice that they're tight.

Tim



On Jun 12, 2009, at 4:36 PM, "Les Kearney" <kearney(at)shaw.ca (kearney(at)shaw.ca)> wrote:



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Hi  

   

As I work to fit my doors, I have come to realize that getting the door pins into the guides will be a bit of a problem. This will be especially so when the weather seals are installed. The doors fit quite well at present but do require that they be pulled in, for and aft. Unless I grow a third hand, this could be a bit of a problem. I will be seeing if I can adjust the door fit to alleviate this issue, but if not I am wondering what others have done to deal with this problem.  

   

Inquiring minds need to knowâ€¦  

   

Cheers  

   

Les  

#40643 â€“ Living in a f/g world  

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kearney

Joined: 20 Sep 2008
Posts: 563

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:42 pm Post subject: Door Fit

David  

   

I understand the mechanics, the key is to get the door closed enough that the tip is “in the hole” to get things started. If the door is open but just a bit, the tip will not pull the door in.  

   

Cheers  

   

Les  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill

 Sent: June-12-09 4:02 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: Door Fit  

  

   

That is the reason for the bevel on the pin. The tip of the pin in the hole starts the process and the bevel pulls it in the hole. doors will be quite tight to start and one will be easier to close than the other. They will close more easily as used.  

       

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney

 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:36 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Door Fit  

Hi  

   

As I work to fit my doors, I have come to realize that getting the door pins into the guides will be a bit of a problem. This will be especially so when the weather seals are installed. The doors fit quite well at present but do require that they be pulled in, for and aft. Unless I grow a third hand, this could be a bit of a problem. I will be seeing if I can adjust the door fit to alleviate this issue, but if not I am wondering what others have done to deal with this problem.  

   

Inquiring minds need to know…  

   

Cheers  

   

Les  

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johngoodman

Joined: 18 Sep 2006
Posts: 530
Location: GA

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:20 am Post subject: Re: Door Fit

This is a good time to post a question on this subject. I got a little over-zealous removing the return so the doors could fit. Dave Saylor suggested several ways to rebuild it back up, but I thought I'd check on what others think is too much gap first. Should it almost touch the door all the way around or do you just need "some" return?

John

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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:10 am Post subject: Door Fit

I made mine touch the door all the around C but you should do this with what ever seal you are intending to use.



JOhn



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 From: johngoodman(at)earthlink.net

 Date: Sat C 13 Jun 2009 06:20:54 -0700

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kearney

Joined: 20 Sep 2008
Posts: 563

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:35 am Post subject: Door Fit

John



I thought I had done the same thing.



Have you got the doors hung yet? If not you may be surprised at how  

much the door gap closes when the doors are in place.



Cheers



Les



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On 13-Jun-09, at 7:20 AM, johngoodman <johngoodman(at)earthlink.net> wrote:



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 >



 This is a good time to post a question on this subject. I got a  

 little over-zealous removing the return so the doors could fit. Dave  

 Saylor suggested several ways to rebuild it back up, but I thought  

 I'd check on what others think is too much gap first. Should it  

 almost touch the door all the way around or do you just need "some"  

 return?

 John



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johngoodman

Joined: 18 Sep 2006
Posts: 530
Location: GA

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:48 am Post subject: Re: Door Fit

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		  John

I thought I had done the same thing.



Have you got the doors hung yet? If not you may be surprised at how  

much the door gap closes when the doors are in place.



Cheers



Les 	


Les,

I'm putting the canopy back on for good in a few days, so I'll check again, but in the initial fitting, there were some areas with larger gaps. I'll just mount them and look. I know a few areas will need some build up. Would a 1/4" be OK, or should I go for 1/8 to 1/16"?



Fun with fiberglass....

John

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kearney

Joined: 20 Sep 2008
Posts: 563

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:29 am Post subject: Door Fit

John

I won't know for a few days either. I am still adjusting for fit with  

door seal.

I would like to get the door closed just touching the door seal with  

just a little compression.

Cheers

Les

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On 13-Jun-09, at 12:49 PM, johngoodman <johngoodman(at)earthlink.net>  

wrote:

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> John

> I thought I had done the same thing.

>

> Have you got the doors hung yet? If not you may be surprised at how

> much the door gap closes when the doors are in place.

>

> Cheers

>

> Les

 Les,

 I'm putting the canopy back on for good in a few days, so I'll check  

 again, but in the initial fitting, there were some areas with larger  

 gaps. I'll just mount them and look. I know a few areas will need  

 some build up. Would a 1/4" be OK, or should I go for 1/8 to 1/16"?

 Fun with fiberglass....

 John

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 #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started.

 N711JG reserved

 Read this topic online here:

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