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		Larry Webber
 
 
  Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 63 Location: West Kingston Rhode Island
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				 Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:00 am    Post subject: I got Zbagged three times on Friday - Flight      Report. | 
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				Paul  im really tired of your closed mind its obvious no matter
  what reports are issued you will not change your opinion.
  Its my belief and desire  Cthat you should C forever :keep your
  aircraft grounded.  flames expected
 
  Larry
 
   
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Date: Sun C 14 Jun 2009 11:29:44 -0700
  To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
  From: psm(at)att.net
  Subject: Re: Zenith-List: I got Zbagged three times on Friday - Flight Report.
  
  --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <psm(at)att.net>
  
  Hi Phil C
  
  You have every right to reach your own conclusion with regard to the 
  safety of the Zodiac XL. I just think bragging about taking the kind 
  of chance you are taking like Scott did in his post is a questionable 
  thing to do. I can't see how anybody can be surprised that the vast 
  majority of people think the Zodiac XL needs work after being 
  grounded in several countries and so strongly criticized by the NTSB.
  
  I don't think you understand the FAA. My questions to the managers 
  at the FAA indicated there is nothing they can do at this 
  point. They need to perform studies and then issue an NPRM which 
  takes at least a year before taking any regulatory action. Even 
  then C they really don't have any interest in amateur built versions 
  of the XL - only those that are factory built. Those of us who 
  choose to build experimental airplanes are literally free to kill 
  ourselves any way we want in the FAA's view.
  
  You are correct that the hired engineer in Germany and the retired 
  designer of the XL indicated there is no problem. For me C this 
  doesn't hold much weight against the NTSB ruling. However C as I said 
  before C this is a decision each of us must make for ourself.
  
  I just wish the Heintzes would go ahead and do the engineering 
  necessary to satisfy the NTSB ruling so the rest of us can go and 
  enjoy our Zodiacs too.
  
  Paul
  XL grounded
  
  
  At 10:31 AM 6/14/2009 C you wrote:
  >Paul C
  >
  >Larry C I and many others have considered the recommendation of the 
  >designer C the findings of the European testers C and the lack of 
  >action by the FAA and decided to go flying. I was fortunate enough 
  >to be able to give a 10 year old his first flight in a GA plane last weekend.
  >
  >Phil Maxson
  >601XL/Corvair
  >Ungrounded
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		Juan Vega Jr
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:23 pm    Post subject: I got Zbagged three times on Friday - Flight      Report. | 
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				Paul,
 your clearly not happy.  You need to sell your plane and fly a certified plane.  
 
 Juan
 
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		Ron Lendon
 
  
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				 Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: I got Zbagged three times on Friday - Flight      Report | 
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				Paul,
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  I just wish the Heintzes would go ahead and do the engineering 
 necessary to satisfy the NTSB ruling so the rest of us can go and 
 enjoy our Zodiacs too. | 	  
 
 The NTSB only makes recommendations, they do not make rules.
 
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