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skywagon

Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 184

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: Inspection camera

Harley,

 You tested it for long lens photo views it  seems.  How is the lens when you want to look at something up very  close?  ...say 1 -3 inches away.  Does it have a manually adjusted  lens,,?

 David

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harley(at)AgelessWings.co
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:24 am Post subject: Inspection camera

No, the lens doesn't have an adjustable focus...but, if you'll notice the keyboard in my video, I was within a couple of inches of the keys at one point and it was still fairly clear. www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMcqqQNIg50.

 

 Ridgid has a 9mm camera and flexible cable (this one is 17mm diameter) accessory that should fit this unit that is supposed to have a closer focal range.  That may be an option as well.  

 

 Harley

 David LLoyd wrote: [quote]         Harley,

   You tested it for long lens photo views it seems.  How is the lens when you want to look at something up very close?  ...say 1 -3 inches away.  Does it have a manually adjusted lens,,?

   David

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		       ----- Original Message ----- 

     From:     Harley (harley(at)agelesswings.com) 

     To:     aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)     

     Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:23 AM

     Subject: Inspection camera

     

     

 Another day, more testing of this neat little camera!  This morning (a very rainy, wet morning here...good day to play inside! <G>), I set it up in my "computer room" (a converted bedroom on the west most end of my house), disconnected the monitor and walked around the house.  

     

 I had a steady image until I got about 25 feet away, in the hall to my kitchen, but even then, never totally lost the image in the house.  Went out into my attached garage (~60 feet from the camera) and also down into the cellar.

  

 What did happen was that I would start getting a couple of regular horizontal flash-like lines as the signal became weaker...never bothered the readability of the image though.  The only time I lost the image altogether was when I went out into my front yard. But it returned immediately if I backed up a couple of feet. 

     

 What this all means for me, is that I can set the monitor up to record to the computer in the computer room, and check out things just about anywhere in my house, including the garage and cellar.  Of course things may change when I start moving the camera instead of the monitor! 

     

 Found another similar device online that uses a separate monitor, and can be recorded directly into the monitor.  The V-Snake ( www.privatebrandtools.com/wireless.htm ).  But the base unit (without the record function) is $500, and the recording option adds another $400 to the price.

  

 Harley

      

 Carlos...the monitor slides off and can be viewed without being attached to the handle.  No wires.  It takes awhile to get used to the fact that to work, the monitor POWER has to be on (I assume that turns on the receiver), the HANDLE has to be on (the transmitter as well as the camera and the light) AND the monitor display has to be turned on.      

     

 Maybe that's why they permanently mounted the monitor in later models...without the transmitter and receiver, only need one switch to do it all! 

     

 I played with it last night and took the monitor two rooms away from the camera and still had a picture...have no idea how far it can be removed (the instructions say it can be used "in close proximity" to the handle...) but a couple of rooms away allows you to have the monitor close to a tape recorder or computer if you want to save the video you are looking at without having the recording unit in the garage or near the work being examined (it comes with a cable to output the image for recording or storing.) 

     

 I saw a big advantage to being able to disconnect the monitor when I was playing around last night. When you are moving the camera by either the flexible cable or the handle, it's a big help to have the monitor standing still in front of you while you maneuver the camera. 

     

 It looks like the newer models that Ridgid is still selling under their own name, no longer have that option. 

     

 Harley

      

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Can somebody please explain why is it advertised “Wireless Inspection Camera” and it comes with “3 ft flexible extended tube” ?       

Is the “wireless” referring to the (battery) power only?       

       

Carlos       

     





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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:43 am Post subject: Inspection camera

I gave mine a test last night, looking under furniture and such.

My first impression is mixed.  I think it MAY fit in a cylinder,

and with the mirror attachment if it fits in you could probably

see the valves and stuff, and you could probably see the piston

and walls.  The problem is that it doesn't like to focus up

real close, so 1-3" I'd say maybe on the long end is ok, but

1-2" doesn't seem to focus.  Then, since you're viewing on a

screen, it isn't as clear as if you were, say, just looking

through a lens.  Yeah, it's cool that you could feed it

out to a TV and capture it on a PC, but, viewing on the LCD

isn't as clear, so it's harder to make out detail.  It actually

is pretty clear if you're looking at stuff 12" away, or across

the room.  I had a sticker on a mechanism under a recliner and

I tried to read it, and it was hard to read the text with

black on yellow.  That was my first clue that perhaps looking

into my cylinder with it may not work perfectly.  It may

find an eaten away valve or something like that, but

you won't probably see more minor things too well in a

cylinder...IF the camera fits in well enough as-is.



So I'm hoping to come across a cylinder I can play with and

test it in, and if it doesn't work well for that, I'm

returning it.  It's nice, but I really just want it for

cylinder inspection.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

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David LLoyd wrote:

[quote] Harley,

 You tested it for long lens photo views it seems.  How is the lens when 

 you want to look at something up very close?  ...say 1 -3 inches away.  

 Does it have a manually adjusted lens,,?

 David

 

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skywagon

Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 184

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:54 am Post subject: Inspection camera

Thanks Harley... I had previously missed your  YouTube link.  For me is key to have close up to look for bracket cracks  and other mechanical failure areas that are nearly inaccessible for  inspection.

 David

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ainut(at)hiwaay.net
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:41 am Post subject: Inspection camera

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2871

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:55 am Post subject: Inspection camera

I'd say Harley's video does a pretty good representation of

the quality that I found.  Thanks for posting, Harley!  So

you can see that in the right situation it's not too bad. But,

the light does tend to get too glaring in some places to

see what you need.  It's certainly no medical camera, but

it has some capabilities too.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

do not archive

Harley wrote:

[quote] No, the lens doesn't have an adjustable focus...but, if you'll notice 

 the keyboard in my video, I was within a couple of inches of the keys at 

 one point and it was still fairly clear. 

 www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMcqqQNIg50.

 

 Ridgid has a 9mm camera and flexible cable (this one is 17mm diameter) 

 accessory that should fit this unit that is supposed to have a closer 

 focal range.  That may be an option as well. 

 

 Harley

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 David LLoyd wrote:

> Harley,

> You tested it for long lens photo views it seems.  How is the lens 

> when you want to look at something up very close?  ...say 1 -3 inches 

> away.  Does it have a manually adjusted lens,,?

> David

>

>     ---

ainut(at)hiwaay.net
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:55 am Post subject: Inspection camera

ainut(at)hiwaay.net
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:55 am Post subject: Inspection camera

ainut(at)hiwaay.net
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:15 am Post subject: Inspection camera

BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:22 am Post subject: Inspection camera

Good Afternoon Harley and All,

  

 Went to Harbor Freight this morning and picked up my unit. 

  

 I also learned something that many of you may already know. When you  receive a Harbor Freight Sale flyer, the ones that need a coupon to get the  lower price are the ones that have a barcode included in the ad. If you do not  have the flyer with you, they generally have the flyer available in the  store, but you will NOT get the sale price unless they can a scan the barcode on  the advertisement.

  

 The little monitor and camera did not have a barcode so you would get that  price without any effort on your part. However, I did pick up a few other items  that were cheaper by having the coupons available to be scanned.

  

 Happy Skies,

  

 Old Bob

 Stearman N3977A

 Brookeridge Airpark

 LL22

  

  In a message dated 6/18/2009 7:26:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  harley(at)agelesswings.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  Another    day, more testing of this neat little camera!  This morning (a very    rainy, wet morning here...good day to play inside! <G>), I set it up in    my "computer room" (a converted bedroom on the west most end of my house),    disconnected the monitor and walked around the house.  



I had a    steady image until I got about 25 feet away, in the hall to my kitchen, but    even then, never totally lost the image in the house.  Went out into my    attached garage (~60 feet from the camera) and also down into the    cellar.

 

What did happen was that I would start getting a couple    of regular horizontal flash-like lines as the signal became weaker...never    bothered the readability of the image though.  The only time I lost the    image altogether was when I went out into my front yard. But it returned    immediately if I backed up a couple of feet. 



What this all means for    me, is that I can set the monitor up to record to the computer in the computer    room, and check out things just about anywhere in my house, including the    garage and cellar.  Of course things may change when I start moving the    camera instead of the monitor! 



Found another similar device online    that uses a separate monitor, and can be recorded directly into the    monitor.  The V-Snake ( www.privatebrandtools.com/wireless.htm    ).  But the base unit (without the record function) is $500, and the    recording option adds another $400 to the price.

 

Harley

      

Carlos...the monitor slides off and can be viewed without being attached    to the handle.  No wires.  It takes awhile to get used to the fact    that to work, the monitor POWER has to be on (I assume that turns on the    receiver), the HANDLE has to be on (the transmitter as well as the camera and    the light) AND the monitor display has to be turned on.  



Maybe    that's why they permanently mounted the monitor in later models...without the    transmitter and receiver, only need one switch to do it all! 



I played    with it last night and took the monitor two rooms away from the camera and    still had a picture...have no idea how far it can be removed (the instructions    say it can be used "in close proximity" to the handle...) but a couple of    rooms away allows you to have the monitor close to a tape recorder or computer    if you want to save the video you are looking at without having the recording    unit in the garage or near the work being examined (it comes with a cable to    output the image for recording or storing.) 



I saw a big advantage to    being able to disconnect the monitor when I was playing around last night.    When you are moving the camera by either the flexible cable or the handle,    it's a big help to have the monitor standing still in front of you while you    maneuver the camera. 



It looks like the newer models that Ridgid is    still selling under their own name, no longer have that option.    



Harley

      

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Can somebody please      explain why is it advertised “Wireless Inspection Camera” and it comes with      “3 ft flexible extended tube” ?     

Is the “wireless”      referring to the (battery) power only?     

      

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wrbyars(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:25 am Post subject: Inspection camera

I have opened the (4) e-mails you have posted in the last couple of hours about the inspection camera and there is nothing to read. Is it just me as all the other posts open OK?

 

   

 

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deej(at)deej.net
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:42 am Post subject: Inspection camera

On 06/18/2009 03:15 PM, wrbyars(at)aol.com wrote:

[quote]

 *I have opened the (4) e-mails you have posted in the last couple of

 hours about the inspection camera and there is nothing to read. Is it

 just me as all the other posts open OK?

 *



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bob(at)bob-white.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:42 am Post subject: Inspection camera

If your mail reader has an option to "view message source" or something

similar, you can see David's messages.  I have the same problem with my

mail reader on a few messages.  I'm not sure what causes the problem,

except that the un-viewable message is some sort of html format but it

comes into my mail reader as plain text.



My grandfather would have said, "it's one of those modern

inconveniences".



Bob W.



Here is the fourth message David posted as viewed from source:



Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit



<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

<html>

<head>

  <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"

http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head>

<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">

I have a little concern about using the clamp-on attachments.  The

mirror is an absolute must when checking in the cylinders for just that

purpose - checking the valves.  However, I am worried about the

mirror coming off while still inside the cylinder.  That will be a

major pain...  Does it seem sturdy enough to you guys?  You

don't think it will come off?<br>

<br>

Thanks,<br>

David M.<br>

<br>

<br>

<br>

On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:15:04 -0400

wrbyars(at)aol.com wrote:



[quote] 

  

 

 

  I have opened the (4) e-mails you have posted in the last couple of hours about the inspection camera and there is nothing to read. Is it just me as all the other posts open OK?

 

 

  

 

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harley(at)AgelessWings.co
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:51 am Post subject: Inspection camera

Nope...not just you...David's posts have been coming through empty here as well...the blank space below David's header (as seen below) is just what I've been receiving as well. 

 

 David...since I started this thread, why don't you email me directly and we'll try to see what is going on...

 

 harley(at)agelesswings.com (harley(at)agelesswings.com)

 

 Harley

  

 wrbyars(at)aol.com (wrbyars(at)aol.com) wrote: [quote]    

   

    I have opened the (4) e-mails you have posted in the last couple of hours about the inspection camera and there is nothing to read. Is it just me as all the other posts open OK?

   

    

   

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raymondj(at)frontiernet.n
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:51 am Post subject: Inspection camera

They were blank to me also.



Raymond Julian

Kettle River, MN.

"Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst"



wrbyars(at)aol.com wrote:

[quote] 

 *I have opened the (4) e-mails you have posted in the last couple of 

 hours about the inspection camera and there is nothing to read. Is it 

 just me as all the other posts open OK?

 *

 

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mprather(at)spro.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:52 am Post subject: Inspection camera

The thought that too..  But I messed around and found that if I select

"View Message Details" on my webmail page I can see the text of David's

messages.

Matt-



[quote]



  I have opened the (4) e-mails you have posted in the last couple of hours

 about the inspection camera and there is nothing to read. Is it just me

 as all the other posts open OK?





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retasker(at)optonline.net
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:57 am Post subject: Inspection camera

It is not just you.  I too do not see anything.



Dick Tasker



wrbyars(at)aol.com wrote:

[quote]

 *I have opened the (4) e-mails you have posted in the last couple of 

 hours about the inspection camera and there is nothing to read. Is it 

 just me as all the other posts open OK?

 *



 --

harley(at)AgelessWings.co
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:59 am Post subject: Inspection camera

>>However, I did pick up a few other items that were cheaper<<

 

 I have that problem as well, Old Bob...I can't go into Harbor Freight without picking up something more than I was looking for...even if it's nothing but another box of nitrile gloves! 

 

 Speaking of which...one of our list members sent me a private email this morning...he wants one of those cameras but was in an area where there is no Harbor Freight (Portugal! <G>).  so I went to another local HF (the one here in Henrietta was out of them) and bought one for him (he said that he had access to an adapter for the US voltage and also didn't care if it was NTSC monitor).  Just sent it off to him. 

 

 While there, I was telling the manager what I was going to do with it, and he offered to sell me the other two he had left in stock as well!  I bought them! 

 

 So!  I have two more for sale, if any of you are not near a Harbor Freight, want one of these fine Harbor Freight Wireless Inspection Cameras and are thinking about getting one of these from their website, I'll sell you one for their price of $99.99 plus tax ($ and shipping...it'll still be less than the online price for it (the order to Portugal with shipping came in almost $10 less than the online price!)

 

 Let me know...

 

 If I don't sell them, I'm not out anything(except for the gas money for the 35 mile round trip...but I like to drive anyway!), as HF will always take them back, so don't feel you have to..

 

 Harley

 

 BobsV35B(at)aol.com (BobsV35B(at)aol.com) wrote: [quote]            Good Afternoon Harley and All,

    

   Went to Harbor Freight this morning and picked up my unit. 

    

   I also learned something that many of you may already know. When you receive a Harbor Freight Sale flyer, the ones that need a coupon to get the lower price are the ones that have a barcode included in the ad. If you do not have the flyer with you, they generally have the flyer available in the store, but you will NOT get the sale price unless they can a scan the barcode on the advertisement.

    

   The little monitor and camera did not have a barcode so you would get that price without any effort on your part. However, I did pick up a few other items that were cheaper by having the coupons available to be scanned.

    

   Happy Skies,

    

   Old Bob

   Stearman N3977A

   Brookeridge Airpark

   LL22

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harley(at)AgelessWings.co
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:12 pm Post subject: Inspection camera

Now that we know what David said:

  	  Quote: 	
		  "I have a little concern about using the clamp-on attachments. The

mirror is an absolute must when checking in the cylinders for just that

purpose - checking the valves. However, I am worried about the

mirror coming off while still inside the cylinder. That will be a

major pain... Does it seem sturdy enough to you guys? You

don't think it will come off?" 	
 First, the mirror is very securely mounted to the shaft it's on.  It is mounted with a loop at the end of the shaft so that it would have to be rotated over 270 degrees on the mount to even loosen it. And the shaft is then mounted through the locking collar that goes around the camera with a couple of bends in it...one is back on itself so that a pull in either direction will actually tighten it in the clamp.  Last the clamp  has a latching feature on it, so when mounted to the camera, it surrounds an indent in the camera body and is no larger diameter than the camera, and locked in place. I found it's a bit difficult to remove once mounted! 

 

 Now, in the event that it DOES come off (and I can't see how), you can simply use the magnet or the hook to retrieve it! 

 

 Harley

 

 

 

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harley(at)AgelessWings.co
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:12 pm Post subject: Inspection camera

I don't think AVG's the problem...I'm using it too...have for years...as well as just about everyone I know locally.  We've never had a problem with sending emails.

 

 Harley

 

 

 [quote]    	  Quote: 	
		  

    From reading the e-mail headers from David's message, it looks like

David is using the AVG mail virus scanner, which has known problems in

sending out e-mails that other e-mail clients cannot read.  It is

showing up blank on my system, too.



    David, you may wish to consider removing the AVG virus scanner, and

use another virus scanner instead, or disable AVG from scanning outgoing

e-mails if that is possible.



fyi



-Dj

  	
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