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		mkmuch(at)gmail.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:04 am    Post subject: Dan Lloyd RV-10 accident report is out | 
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				I am shocked and amazed at what's in this report.  I am sorry for the
 loss and I'm sorry for this situation.  It reads like an instruction
 manual of what not to do...
 
 On 6/25/09, Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:
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  I just came across this on another list.
 
  ..Les
 
  http://www.ntsb.
  <http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id 071120X01821&key=1>
  gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id 071120X01821&key=1
 
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		pascal(at)rv10builder.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:34 am    Post subject: Dan Lloyd RV-10 accident report is out | 
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				Reads just like Tim called it a year ago. I actually think the NTSB may have 
 taken Tim's report for their own report.
 Regardless, very sad to see these facts again.
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 From: "Mike Much" <mkmuch(at)gmail.com>
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:57 AM
 To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
 Subject: Re: Dan Lloyd RV-10 accident report is out
 
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  I am shocked and amazed at what's in this report.  I am sorry for the
  loss and I'm sorry for this situation.  It reads like an instruction
  manual of what not to do...
 
  On 6/25/09, Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:
 > Hi
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 > I just came across this on another list.
 >
 > ..Les
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 > http://www.ntsb.
 > <http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id 071120X01821&key=1>
 > gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id 071120X01821&key=1
 
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		Tim Olson
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:56 am    Post subject: Dan Lloyd RV-10 accident report is out | 
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				The NTSB did speak with many people and gathered many facts.
 They actually have more facts than appear in the report.
 They have things like cellphone records and other things that
 allow them to actually know the dates and times of events,
 and quite a few firsthand reports from people on some of
 the things that were done or had happened.  The report that
 was put out actually leaves out some items, I'm just
 guessing it's because they could have some sort of negative
 commercial or personal impact if the whole blunt fact story
 were told. In the end, regardless of the other things in the
 situation that led him down the path to the end, it was still
 his own responsibility to make sure he did things right and
 did not participate in things that weren't proper or legal.
 
 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
 do not archive
 pascal wrote:
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  Reads just like Tim called it a year ago. I actually think the NTSB may 
  have taken Tim's report for their own report.
  Regardless, very sad to see these facts again.
  
  
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  From: "Mike Much" <mkmuch(at)gmail.com>
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:57 AM
  To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
  Subject: Re: Dan Lloyd RV-10 accident report is out
  
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 >
 > I am shocked and amazed at what's in this report.  I am sorry for the
 > loss and I'm sorry for this situation.  It reads like an instruction
 > manual of what not to do...
 >
 > On 6/25/09, Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:
 >> Hi
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> I just came across this on another list.
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> ..Les
 >>
 >> http://www.ntsb.
 >> <http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id 071120X01821&key=1>
 >> gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id 071120X01821&key=1
 >>
 >>
 >
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 > Sent from my mobile device
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		msausen
 
 
  Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 559 Location: Appleton, WI USA
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:52 pm    Post subject: Dan Lloyd RV-10 accident report is out | 
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				While many of us knew a good chunk of the details, some of the things were "guesses" or conjecture.  I'm sad to say that the report verified many of those guesses.  
 
   One of the things I hope is very clear is that the "engine builder", in my opinion, was VERY irresponsible in his actions and enabling Dan to do some of the things he did are reprehensible, inexcusable, and completely irresponsible.  I know he can hide behind the idea that he didn't know what Dan was doing but, again in my opinion, the evidence shows otherwise in addition to a complete lack of concern for safety.  I don't know how anyone would do business with this "engine builder" after reading the NTSB report.  I'm just disgusted at his involvement in this.
 
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