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nukeflyboy

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
Posts: 162
Location: Granbury, TX

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:18 am Post subject: Engine Delivery Question

I decided to order the Van's deal on the Lycoming engine and got in before the price increase.  Delivery is scheduled for some time next week.  For those of you that received an engine from Lyc via Van's, what do I need to do to prepare?  Will I be expected to remove it from the truck or will they have a lift or some means to get it to ground level?

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Lew Gallagher

Joined: 04 Jan 2008
Posts: 402
Location: Greenville , SC

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:49 am Post subject: Re: Engine Delivery Question

Hey Dave,



We didn't get our engine from Van's, but I imagine they'll all be about the same.  Ours came bolted to a pallet using two temporary mounts for the two lower rear mount ears and a third brace that supported the front hub -- it works quite well.  The delivery truck had a hydraulic tail gate and the driver had a manual pallet jack he used to roll it into the shop.  I took the sides and top off the crating, used an engine jack to raise the engine and pallet together and screwed swivel wheels from harbor freight onto the four corners -- as long as you're on a hard floor, it roles very easily.  With an engine leveler gizmo attached to the engine hoist so that the angle is the same every time it is picked up, it is no trouble at all to mount and dismount the engine to the plane and back to the pallet during the cowling fitting, hose/cable fitting, etc.



Later, - Lew

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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:24 am Post subject: Engine Delivery Question

I did the same thing.  As I recall, the delivery as either 'free'or 

involved no additional charges.



The trucker called and I explained that we could take it at the driveway.



For the delivery, I was prepared to have my neighbor help with his tractor.



The truck came, used his lift ramp to put it on the ground, and used a 

hand fork lift to roll it onto the gravel drive.



Later, my neighbor came over, we strapped it  on his shovel and put it 

in the hangar/shop.  No problems.



A week later, I rec'd a letter in the mail from the trucking company for 

a $90 lift gate charge.  It took a few calls and a fax of the charge 

back (to Lycoming I recall) for the charge to be voided.



That was my experience.



BTW, when the time came, I was able to unpack and otherwise move the 

engine around and mount it using the HF engine hoist and balancer.  A 

good deal.



Note that the engine is sealed in heavy plastic along with some large 

dry packs.  As I recall, the dry packs are visible from outside the 

plastic.  And they have an indicator telling you whether they are still 

functioning (they can be renewed in an oven).   So you can leave the 

engine packed with some assurance that it will remain dry.



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 I decided to order the Van's deal on the Lycoming engine and got in before the price increase.  Delivery is scheduled for some time next week.  For those of you that received an engine from Lyc via Van's, what do I need to do to prepare?  Will I be expected to remove it from the truck or will they have a lift or some means to get it to ground level? [Question]



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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:34 am Post subject: Engine Delivery Question

When mine came the truck had a hydraulic tail gate, which was paid extra 

for.  I have a fork lift (ancient and decrepit, but it runs) and I used 

that.

  Since I didn't use the tailgate ..... the charge was refunded ..... 

probably to Lycoming  .  Depending on whether you have to go over 

grass or not, I'd build a dolly with good casters on it that will handle 

a 4 X 4 pallet so you can get it from the spot in your driveway to your 

shop.  I have all my parts stored in a room in my shop, and the engine 

wouldn't fit through the door, so I uncrated it and put it on a dolly 

... and tyhen it just fit.  In hindsight, I'd probqbly just push it 

into a corner and leave it alone.

Linn

nukeflyboy wrote:

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 I decided to order the Van's deal on the Lycoming engine and got in before the price increase.  Delivery is scheduled for some time next week.  For those of you that received an engine from Lyc via Van's, what do I need to do to prepare?  Will I be expected to remove it from the truck or will they have a lift or some means to get it to ground level? [Question]



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 Dave Moore

 RV-6 flying

 RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell





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AirMike

Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 514
Location: Nevada

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:54 am Post subject: Engine Delivery Question

You may have to pay extra for the lift gate, but worth it.



I tipped mine onto a Harbor Freight (1000# capacity) furniture dolly which has two advantages. One - you can move it around easily, and two - you can get the forks of the engine lift under it when it is time to mount it,

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nukeflyboy

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
Posts: 162
Location: Granbury, TX

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: Engine Delivery Question

Thanks guys - that's what I needed to know. I'll be ready with the HF dollies and an engine hoist on standby.

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daveleikam(at)wi.rr.com
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: Engine Delivery Question

They delivered mine with a lift gate truck.  Then they used a hand fork to 

roll it down my driveway to my shop.

Mine is still in the crate, delivered June 1st.  I put some small snowmobile 

dollies under the pallet so I can move it easily if I need to.  No issues.



Dave Leikam

RV-10 #40496

N89DA

Muskego, WI



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partner14

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Granbury Texas

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: Engine Delivery Question

Just rmember Dave you can always just use pipe, pvc or other, to just roll the crate where you want it.  I moved a 2,000 milling machine into a garage and then up a 12" step into my workshop using pipe.

 Don



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Thanks guys - that's what I needed to know.  I'll be ready with the HF dollies and an engine hoist on standby.



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2882

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:42 am Post subject: Engine Delivery Question

Don,

That's one of the things I really like about you...these old

(really really old) methods and concepts have been around

longer than any of us, yet few people remember to use them

in practical daily use.  It's a dying art.  You're darn

creative with many of the things you do, and think outside

the box a little.  I've always appreciated fellow D-I-Y

types.  Even though we as airplane builders maybe are more

D-I-Y than the average guy, there is still a lot of

"build it for me, let me buy it"...so it's refreshing to see

another guy who still has the spirit.  I try to D-I-Y every

chance I get, and I shed some blood at times working on

car and airplane projects, but it saves money and gives you

a good feeling in the end.   I've used PVC pipe and a few

2x4's to move even small buildings across the yard before,

and 3/4" PVC to roll large things in the garage. The

theories of old can make things work out well today!



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

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Don McDonald wrote:

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		   Just rmember Dave you can always just use pipe, pvc or other, to just 

 roll the crate where you want it.  I moved a 2,000 milling machine into 

 a garage and then up a 12" step into my workshop using pipe.

 Don

 

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nukeflyboy

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
Posts: 162
Location: Granbury, TX

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:06 am Post subject: Re: Engine Delivery Question

Don,

That's a great idea.  It worked well for the builders of the pyramids so why not now!  Of course one of the advantages of living here on the airpark is that between us, we own just about every tool ever conceived.  See you at OSH.



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partner14

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Granbury Texas

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: Engine Delivery Question

Unfortunately, we won't be at Osh.  A hair toooo soon for the plane, but mostly because Kim has to attend her sons Army basic training graduation in Georgia on the 30th.... right smack in the middle of Osh!!!!!  Go figure...  Next year for sure.  Will be down a little your way in Sept... Sedona... maybe after the week there we'll just keep going and head for Granbury.  Ya think.

 Don McDonald

 N414DM - 55 hours and counting



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Subject: Re: Engine Delivery Question

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 10:06 AM



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Don,

That's a great idea.  It worked well for the builders of the pyramids so why not now!  Of course one of the advantages of living here on the airpark is that between us, we own just about every tool ever conceived.  See you at OSH.



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nukeflyboy

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Posts: 162
Location: Granbury, TX

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:15 am Post subject: Re: Engine Delivery Question

If you make it this far east you know you are welcome to stay and visit.  At the moment I don't have any travel plans for the month of September.  Our EAA meeting is on 9/12.  Too bad about the OSH conflict but the graduation is pretty cool too.  Give our best to the new soldier and let him know we appreciate his service to our country.



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