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taildrags(at)hotmail.com
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:23 am    Post subject: starter for no-electrics engines Reply with quote

This may already have come up in discussion here so if it
has, I apologize in advance but I'm
always behind on my reading so I'm just now getting around
to reading my Sport Aviation with the Tailwind on the cover.
Probably from March or April. Anyway, there is a short
article on a really nifty starter that uses a cordless
drill driving a ring gear that bolts to the prop hub
before the prop goes on. It's for older Continentals like
the A65s that so many of us have (as well as other engines
and airplanes with no electrics or provision for starters).
A T-handle pull cable
from the cockpit engages the drive gear from the drill at
the same time that the trigger is pulled, and a Bendix
arrangement keeps the drive from breaking if the engine
kicks back.

Has anyone seen one of these or actually tried one? They
are STC'ing the setup and it is supposed to sell for something
like $1500 plus another $800 for installation (or some
amount like that). I thought it was very clever.

Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject: starter for no-electrics engines Reply with quote

Why would anyone want one? Maybe it's just me, but hand proping my A 65 is
just part of flying an old open cockpit airplane. I love it all.
Gene in rainy Tennessee
N502R
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: starter for no-electrics engines Reply with quote

I saw one on a Taylorcraft a week or so ago in Batesville, AR. The guy I rent a 150 from put one on for somebody and when he told me about it I just had to see it. If I go over next week I'll try and get a picture of it. It turned the engine over for a test spin but you could tell it was laboring.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:11 am    Post subject: Re: starter for no-electrics engines Reply with quote

Well I went over and saw the Taylorcraft yesterday. Forgot my camera...so I took about 4 pics with my cell-phone. Now if I could just figure out how to send the pictures from my cell phone. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:34 am    Post subject: starter for no-electrics engines Reply with quote

you need a rocket fish;it will allow you to communicate to the cell phone from your computer and you down load the pics from the phone to the computer and then print them out onto photo paper if you have a printer.


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Well I went over and saw the Taylorcraft yesterday. Forgot my camera...so I took about 4 pics with my cell-phone. Now if I could just figure out how to send the pictures from my cell phone. [Rolling Eyes]


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:45 am    Post subject: starter for no-electrics engines Reply with quote

You can also send the pics to your email address via a pic (MMS) message, just like you were sending them to another cellphone. Instead of putting in a phone number enter in your email address. They'll be sent to your inbox.

Ryan

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:31 PM, H RULE <harvey.rule(at)rogers.com (harvey.rule(at)rogers.com)> wrote:
[quote] you need a rocket fish;it will allow you to communicate to the cell phone from your computer and you down load the pics from the phone to the computer and then print them out onto photo paper if you have a printer.


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Well I went over and saw the Taylorcraft yesterday.  Forgot my camera...so I took about 4 pics with my cell-phone.  Now if I could just figure out how to send the pictures from my cell phone. [Rolling Eyes]


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: starter for no-electrics engines Reply with quote

I'll just show two pictures in two different posts. The first picture is of the modified 18v drill (yellow) enclosed in an aluminum box fastened to the firewall. The bottom of the picture shows the battery missing (being charged) but there is a rod going from the bottom of the drill through the firewall to a "T" handle located on the instrument panel. As the "T" handle is pulled the drill bottom pivots towards the firewall and at the same time turns the drill on. The modified top of the drill pivots towards the prop pushing a shaft with a starter gear on the end of it. The spinning gear is pushed forward engaging the starter ring which starts the engine. The starter gear is some sort of bendix arrangement which prevents the running motor from tearing the gear off while it is engaged.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: starter for no-electrics engines Reply with quote

My second picture is of the starting gear and ring on the front (prop removed). The clearer of the two pictures but I was in a dark hangar taking pictures with a cell phone. If I can clarify anything, just let me know

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