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		Guy Buchanan
 
  
  Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 1204 Location: Ramona, CA
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:44 am    Post subject: How much fuel do YOU carry? | 
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				At 09:57 AM 10/21/2009, you wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  All I'm suggesting is that for local trips around the patch, flying
 to the local $100 'burger joint, or just flying for an hour in the
 evening, it is not necessary...for me...to fly with FULL tanks every
 time I take off, IF you have two 13-gallon tanks. You have to do the
 math, and see if you NEED to lug all that fuel with you.
 
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 Lynn,
          Fuel quantity is relative. I could, I suppose, put a 33 
 gallon fuel tank in the right seat, as well as my 26 gallons of wing 
 tank fuel, for every launch that I don't carry a passenger. That way 
 I'd be sure of getting where I was going, with lots of options. 
 However, here in SoCal one hour of extra fuel (5 gallons) will 
 generally find you a VMC airport with fuel so I really don't 
 understand the requirement to carry more. I've flown in places where 
 that wasn't true, and there I carry more fuel. The bottom line is 
 that flying is a thinking game, with Draconian punishments for the 
 thoughtless, and the only thing that will keep you 100% safe is to 
 stay on the ground.
 Guy Buchanan
 San Diego, CA
 K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting
 
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		Lynn Matteson
 
 
  Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 2778 Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:08 am    Post subject: How much fuel do YOU carry? | 
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				Exactly my point, Guy. Enough fuel for the mission whether it be  
 crossing the Atlantic, or hopping from Yucca Valley  to Twentynine  
 Palms. Around here, with the flatness of the land, and airports  
 abundant, there is not the burning need to keep the tanks at maximum  
 full. Maybe an axiom could be drawn from this....the fuller the tank,  
 the shallower the thinking need be. Or, "the emptier the tank, the  
 fuller the brain must be"
 
 And speaking of abundant airports, there are something like 200  
 charted airports in Michigan, and over 500 that are not charted, or  
 private. I bought a list of the uncharted ones, but in an emergency,  
 there usually isn't time to figure where you are, consult the list,  
 pick out one and land there. When I had my little problem the other  
 day, I got lucky to see one of these uncharted fields and land there.  
 The point is, if there are that many airfields, one is usually  
 nearby.....not a reason to run out of fuel just to test one's luck,  
 but comforting nonetheless.
 I got lucky the other day and cheated Draco out of a good  
 thrashing....so I polished up my thinking cap, and will do my best to  
 "keep on thinking free." (Moody Blues) : )
 
 Lynn Matteson
 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 801.4 hrs
 Countdown to 1000 hrs--199 to go
 Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
 Electroair direct-fire ignition system
 Rotec TBI-40 injection
 Status: flying (and learning)
 On Oct 22, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
 
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  At 09:57 AM 10/21/2009, you wrote:
 > All I'm suggesting is that for local trips around the patch, flying
 > to the local $100 'burger joint, or just flying for an hour in the
 > evening, it is not necessary...for me...to fly with FULL tanks every
 > time I take off, IF you have two 13-gallon tanks. You have to do the
 > math, and see if you NEED to lug all that fuel with you.
 
  Lynn,
          Fuel quantity is relative. I could, I suppose, put a 33  
  gallon fuel tank in the right seat, as well as my 26 gallons of  
  wing tank fuel, for every launch that I don't carry a passenger.  
  That way I'd be sure of getting where I was going, with lots of  
  options. However, here in SoCal one hour of extra fuel (5 gallons)  
  will generally find you a VMC airport with fuel so I really don't  
  understand the requirement to carry more. I've flown in places  
  where that wasn't true, and there I carry more fuel. The bottom  
  line is that flying is a thinking game, with Draconian punishments  
  for the thoughtless, and the only thing that will keep you 100%  
  safe is to stay on the ground.
  Guy Buchanan
  San Diego, CA
  K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting
 
 
 
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		akflyer
 
  
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:27 am    Post subject: Re: How much fuel do YOU carry? | 
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				enough to carry out the planned flight, with about an hour reserve  Not very often I take off with more than 15 gallons on board for a normal flight.  I have topped the tanks off a few times and she gets kinda piggy with a passenger and full tanks.
 
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		Float Flyr
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:34 pm    Post subject: How much fuel do YOU carry? | 
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				Maybe you should have said get in the ground!  
    
 Noel  
    
    
    
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