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Gig Giacona



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:11 pm    Post subject: How many of you have grounded... Reply with quote

...your plane because of the NTSB letter or the issues surrounding it?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:28 pm    Post subject: How many of you have grounded... Reply with quote

Now THERE is the question. Nothing in this country really formally grounds an
amateur built experimental, except on a plane by plane basis.

In my view, the NTSB is too prone to respond to political pressure, and not
prone enough to find the real problems, especially with light aircraft. I
cannot accept the validity of the NTSB position (I can't call it an
analysis), and therefore went right on building. When I get done, unless
something new, and a whole lot more revealing happens, I have every intention
of flying the airplane.

I have refused to fly in aircraft with whose design/construction I had
involvement, because I thought they were unsafe. I don't have a death wish.
But I don't see anything like that in the XL.

On Wednesday 28 October 2009 15:11, Gig Giacona wrote:
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...your plane because of the NTSB letter or the issues surrounding it?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject: How Many of You Have Grounded... Reply with quote

I grounded my plane from April 16th to April 24th. After reading the
NTSB report thoroughly, I did some reading of the accident reports
online. I decided for myself that the conclusions in the NTSB report
were not supported by enough probative evidence and corroboration from
the actual accident reports to keep my Zodiac XL grounded. I have flown
my airplane ever since.

I would love to see all the NTSB files on these accidents to look at
site investigation photos and the notes of the investigators.

I inform prospective passengers of the NTSB report and offer a copy to
them before they fly with me. Usually they decline the report and ask
"what does it say?" I tell them my reading and conclusions and why I
fly my airplane. So far no one has declined to fly with me. My social
friends know me as cautious. I won't bungy jump and I won't ride
rollercoasters. So I guess they trust my judgment and cautious nature.

Some of my flying friends who own other makes and models of experimental
airplanes have volunteered their unsolicited thoughts. But, they all
sincerely wish me well and safe flying. Those around my hanger flying
certified aircraft are just curious and really don't know an issue
exists with my airplane make and model.

I do a really thorough pre-flight and follow the recommendations of
Chris Heintz.

As time goes by, and I continue to observe many (not just a few) Zodiacs
flying without incident, it is hard for me to accept that a problem
exists without pilot error as the primary and significant cause.
Therefore, I fly and hope my piloting skills are up to snuff.
Brad DeMeo
N601BD
2008 Zodiac XL (QBK)


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: How many of you have grounded... Reply with quote

What about builders who have completed and signed-off XL's that have not yet flown?

There's one local guy in my area who finished his airplane last winter who hasn't flown yet. He hasn't been coming around, so we don't know what's up with him. Could be afraid. Could be sick, or have other reasons. Don't know...

Also know of one other guy with a finished and signed off XL who hasn't flown yet. Has been a few months.

The way I feel, when I get my XL signed off, I can't imagine delaying very long until it's first flight.

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