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TeamGrumman-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 04/15/06

 
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:33 am    Post subject: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 04/15/06 Reply with quote

Had a Musketeer (160 horse) & only tried to climb once with full flaps.
Decided to go around on a ~ short turf strip with trees ona end when it became
clear that I was way long on the landing point.

It was my first attempt at climbing with full flaps on that model (didn't
have much choice..) & not much was happening. (remember thinking.. wtf).
There was no time to even consider reducing flaps to half as the trees were
looming.

Ended up ina box with no options but to pull back ona yoke, however amount
it took, at whatever the speed was..& ended up.. just cleared the trees.

POH sez nothing about climbing with full flaps, on that model; also no
speed #'s..IOW..you on you own.. Does mention the use of half flaps, to get off
(the ground) a turf strip quicker but then recommends no flaps for climbout.

Fella that owned the plane before me mentioned he favored yankin at the
flaps (johnson bar on this model) at a certain speed to 'jump' into the air
(forget the details)..but nothing in the POH about it but understand that others
use this method.

Imo, generally, more power for a given weight results in a better climb
capability, if using flaps & always good to see that info in a POH.

jon

In a message dated 4/16/2006 3:03:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
teamgrumman-list-digest(at)matronics.com writes:

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<david(at)carneyaviation.com>

# I'd be pretty surprised to fly a plane that didn't climb with
# flaps deployed.

It's a certification requirement: 14 CFR 23.77-a-3
Don't know what rules apply to experimentals.
Are there common aircraft in anyone's experience that will

not climb under near standard conditions with flaps deployed?

Jamey


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