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rleffler
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 Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:33 pm Post subject: Door SB just posted |
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Safety Latch for the Door SB was just posted…….
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb10-1-4.pdf
I looked to see if details of the changes were online, but couldn’t find them. I guess who ever receives there kit in the mail first will need to update us all.
Bob
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| Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:46 pm Post subject: Door SB just posted |
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Time of Compliance: Before further flight
So now we are grounded for an issue that we have known about for more than 2 years.
Will be interesting to see how long it takes to get the parts to us in the deeeeep south.
A real pisser – in the middle of our peak flying season no less.
Ron
VH-XRM, not flying in Oz.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Friday, 15 January 2010 12:17 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Door SB just posted
Safety Latch for the Door SB was just posted…….
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb10-1-4.pdf
I looked to see if details of the changes were online, but couldn’t find them. I guess who ever receives there kit in the mail first will need to update us all.
Bob
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msausen
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| Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:55 am Post subject: Door SB just posted |
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Ron,
Unless the Aussie FAA sees things differently than our FAA, there is no such thing as “grounded” or “mandatory” in the experimental world as the pilot and the FAA/NTSB are really the only two authorities here that can ground an aircraft here. As you said, people have been flying for years before Van’s acknowledged the problem with this SB. Use good judgment and go fly.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron McGann
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:45 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Door SB just posted
Time of Compliance: Before further flight
So now we are grounded for an issue that we have known about for more than 2 years.
Will be interesting to see how long it takes to get the parts to us in the deeeeep south.
A real pisser – in the middle of our peak flying season no less.
Ron
VH-XRM, not flying in Oz.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Friday, 15 January 2010 12:17 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Door SB just posted
Safety Latch for the Door SB was just posted…….
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb10-1-4.pdf
I looked to see if details of the changes were online, but couldn’t find them. I guess who ever receives there kit in the mail first will need to update us all.
Bob
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| Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:29 am Post subject: Door SB just posted |
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vans can't ground anybody; unless its in your government's regulations.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron McGann
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:45 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Door SB just posted
Time of Compliance: Before further flight
So now we are grounded for an issue that we have known about for more than 2 years.
Will be interesting to see how long it takes to get the parts to us in the deeeeep south.
A real pisser – in the middle of our peak flying season no less.
Ron
VH-XRM, not flying in Oz.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Friday, 15 January 2010 12:17 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Door SB just posted
Safety Latch for the Door SB was just posted…….
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb10-1-4.pdf
I looked to see if details of the changes were online, but couldn’t find them. I guess who ever receives there kit in the mail first will need to update us all.
Bob
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kearney
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| Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:25 am Post subject: Door SB just posted |
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Damn
You mean I'm grounded until I get this done!
Except for the panel, wiring, and wing installation I was ready to go flying today....
Cheers
Les
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron McGann
Sent: January-14-10 10:45 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Door SB just posted
Time of Compliance: Before further flight
So now we are grounded for an issue that we have known about for more than 2 years.
Will be interesting to see how long it takes to get the parts to us in the deeeeep south.
A real pisser – in the middle of our peak flying season no less.
Ron
VH-XRM, not flying in Oz.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Friday, 15 January 2010 12:17 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Door SB just posted
Safety Latch for the Door SB was just posted…….
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb10-1-4.pdf
I looked to see if details of the changes were online, but couldn’t find them. I guess who ever receives there kit in the mail first will need to update us all.
Bob
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Kelly McMullen
Joined: 16 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:47 am Post subject: Door SB just posted |
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So first flight at noon Les? ;-p
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:
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You mean I'm grounded until I get this done!
Except for the panel, wiring, and wing installation I was ready to go flying
today....
Cheers
Les
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron McGann
Sent: January-14-10 10:45 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Door SB just posted
Time of Compliance: Before further flight
So now we are grounded for an issue that we have known about for more than 2
years.
Will be interesting to see how long it takes to get the parts to us in the
deeeeep south.
A real pisser – in the middle of our peak flying season no less.
Ron
VH-XRM, not flying in Oz.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Friday, 15 January 2010 12:17 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Door SB just posted
Safety Latch for the Door SB was just posted…….
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb10-1-4.pdf
I looked to see if details of the changes were online, but couldn’t find
them. I guess who ever receives there kit in the mail first will need to
update us all.
Bob
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AV8ORJWC
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Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"
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| Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:19 pm Post subject: Door SB just posted |
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Let's make Lemonade from VANS Aussie Lemon rule. It is a Major
acknowledgement (and one we don't see often) and well overdue that VANS
published an SB on the repetitive door opening in flight scenario.
There is further hope that acknowledgements might just lead to further
parts improvements on follow-up kit sales. A few on this list have
memorialized some of them. We can also look on the bright side that
just like the SB on the empennage doubler, no other cases have arisen
and as you point out Michael, it is only Advisory in the USA. We can
also celebrate the fact that Ken Scott did not have to lecture us to
ignore the issue and just build the damn thing.
Ron, if you want, I can pick up the parts this morning and Fedex them
to you immediately. Being grounded for lack of parts is no fun.
John Cox
Hangar D-20, Aurora, OR, US of A
do not archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 3:53 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Door SB just posted
Ron,
Unless the Aussie FAA sees things differently than our FAA, there is
no such thing as "grounded" or "mandatory" in the experimental world as
the pilot and the FAA/NTSB are really the only two authorities here that
can ground an aircraft here. As you said, people have been flying for
years before Van's acknowledged the problem with this SB. Use good
judgment and go fly.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron McGann
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:45 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Door SB just posted
Time of Compliance: Before further flight
So now we are grounded for an issue that we have known about for more
than 2 years.
Will be interesting to see how long it takes to get the parts to us in
the deeeeep south.
A real pisser - in the middle of our peak flying season no less.
Ron
VH-XRM, not flying in Oz.
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Friday, 15 January 2010 12:17 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Door SB just posted
Safety Latch for the Door SB was just posted.......
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb10-1-4.pdf
I looked to see if details of the changes were online, but couldn't find
them. I guess who ever receives there kit in the mail first will need
to update us all.
Bob
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partner14
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| Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:54 pm Post subject: Door SB just posted |
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John, you don't have that option when looking "ONLINE".
Another issue was the axle extensions.... I called Van's and tried to give them 40 or so machined extensions, and they wanted nothing to do with it. I just thought the next 20 kits would have a bonus. Guess what Van's, YOURS BREAK. Instead I ended up sending most of them to Alex D.
Don McDonald
--- On Fri, 1/15/10, John Cox <johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com> wrote:
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From: John Cox <johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com>
Subject: RE: Door SB just posted
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 7:16 PM
Let's make Lemonade from VANS Aussie Lemon rule. It is a Major acknowledgement (and one we don't see often) and well overdue that VANS published an SB on the repetitive door opening in flight scenario. There is further hope that acknowledgements might just lead to further parts improvements on follow-up kit sales. A few on this list have memorialized some of them. We can also look on the bright side that just like the SB on the empennage doubler, no other cases have arisen and as you point out Michael, it is only Advisory in the USA. We can also celebrate the fact that Ken Scott did not have to lecture us to ignore the issue and just build the damn thing.
Ron, if you want, I can pick up the parts this morning and Fedex them to you immediately. Being grounded for lack of parts is no fun.
John Cox
Hangar D-20, Aurora, OR, US of A
do not archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 3:53 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Door SB just posted
Ron,
Unless the Aussie FAA sees things differently than our FAA, there is no such thing as “grounded” or “mandatory” in the experimental world as the pilot and the FAA/NTSB are really the only two authorities here that can ground an aircraft here. As you said, people have been flying for years before Van’s acknowledged the problem with this SB. Use good judgment and go fly.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron McGann
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:45 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Door SB just posted
Time of Compliance: Before further flight
So now we are grounded for an issue that we have known about for more than 2 years.
Will be interesting to see how long it takes to get the parts to us in the deeeeep south.
A real pisser – in the middle of our peak flying season no less.
Ron
VH-XRM, not flying in Oz.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Friday, 15 January 2010 12:17 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Door SB just posted
Safety Latch for the Door SB was just posted…….
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb10-1-4.pdf
I looked to see if details of the changes were online, but couldn’t find them. I guess who ever receives there kit in the mail first will need to update us all.
Bob
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