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schmoboy(at)cox.net
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:26 am Post subject: Chelton RV-10?



On direct2avionic's website they have a link to a new two screen Chelton

specific to the RV-10. However, that link just goes to a page that

states "more info coming soon".

<http://www.direct2avionics.com/efis sv 10.html>

Anyone know the specifics? How it is different from their "standard"

two screen package?

Thanks...

-Sean #40303

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bob.condrey(at)baesystems
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:17 am Post subject: Chelton RV-10?



I just called them a few days ago on this. Explanation at the time was

that it would include a cabling harness. I also had a conversation with

an avionics dealer that said the same thing. Apparently there's a LOT

of wiring and this will make life much easier. Neither of my

conversations revealed why it might be RV-10 specific since it seems

that prefab cable harnesses would be generic to any aircraft. I did ask

specifically whether some sort of mounting hardware would be included

for the AHRS and got a negative response.

Also, there was a hint that they might offer some sort of special this

spring/summer to re-energize sales. Apparently sales have fallen off a

bit as a result of the AHRS issue. Crossbow is reportedly flight

testing an updated AHRS with good results.

Bob #40105

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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: Chelton RV-10?



The wiring is not a big issue. The issue is getting the connector kit from

them and getting the proper crimper as the connectors are the high density

D-subs. Supplies and some hired help completed the Chelton J3 interconnect

cable, the J1 cables for less than $300. I was offered prewired cables for

$2000+. The AHRS cable is a 15 pin regular D-sub; sockets and crimper ($40)

for the regular connectors is available from SteinAir or Affordable panels.

The high density crimper ($250+) can be borrowed from an avionics shop and

the HD sockets are in the connector kit. My recommendation is buy the

regular crimper and borrow the HD crimper. Most avionics will use the

regular crimper, only exceptions I know are the Chelton and GNS 480. One

other advice is map the wires correctly the first time; socket removal is

possible with the removal tools but difficult.

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LarryRosen(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject: Chelton RV-10?



An updated service letter is on Direct to Avionics site at

<http://www.direct2avionics.com/news.html>. Like Bob said, they are

testing and expect the update to be available in February.

Unfortunately it requires the Crossbow to be modified at their facility

either by exchange with a rebuilt "pool" unit or a rework of your unit.

Larry Rosen

<http://lrosen.nerv10.com>

Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:

I just called them a few days ago on this. Explanation at the time was

that it would include a cabling harness. I also had a conversation with

an avionics dealer that said the same thing. Apparently there's a LOT

of wiring and this will make life much easier. Neither of my

conversations revealed why it might be RV-10 specific since it seems

that prefab cable harnesses would be generic to any aircraft. I did ask

specifically whether some sort of mounting hardware would be included

for the AHRS and got a negative response.

Also, there was a hint that they might offer some sort of special this

spring/summer to re-energize sales. Apparently sales have fallen off a

bit as a result of the AHRS issue. Crossbow is reportedly flight

testing an updated AHRS with good results.

Bob #40105

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:25 am Post subject: Chelton RV-10?



Having just done the wiring of the Cheltons, I can tell you

this...

1: the "J2" harnesses (interconnects from screen to screen)

would be good things to buy if you're going to buy anything.

They have a lot of wires.

2: The "J3" harnesses (power, keyboard, autopilot on the PFD)

are SUPER simple and involve very few wires. You could wire

as few as 5 wires I think...if I remember right. Definitely

best to just build them.

3: The "J1" harness (Interface to your radio stack, AHRS,

GPS, Traffic, WSI, ...) has a few more wires, but it surely

isn't very hard to build, and given the complexity of where

you may want to mount your AHRS and things like that, I

would not be interested in buying this harness. Best

to custom build probably for everyone.

So the harnesses involved in wiring the Chelton aren't

very bad at all, except for the J2's. I purchased my

system the last week that harnesses were included, so

I didn't have to build those, but the J1's I basically

decided to build my own, and the J3's I decided to chop

theirs up a bit to eliminate some unused wires. So other

than those straightforward screen inteconnects, the

rest is mostly useless.

Also, in regards to mounting, most builders will want to

mount to suit their needs, and if harnesses are provided

with ends on them, how do you pull them through

conduit and snap bushings under the floor?

Latest on the AHRS is the 2nd SB came out this week and

they're expecting in Feb to begin to accept returns

for either upgrade, or replacement from their pool of

upgraded units, and then hopefully the Crossbow is

good to go.

Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170

Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:

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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:22 pm Post subject: Chelton RV-10?



Creating the J2 interconnect cable is tedious but not difficult as every

socket on one connector maps to the same socket on the second connector.

Using solder leads and shielded pair 22g wire we created an 18" long

connector.( less than $200 in the parts and the 3 hours of hired avionics

labor for this cable). Agree with Tim that you want to create your own

harnesses as these won't pull through the holes and conduits with connectors

installed.

do not archive

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