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tmclam(at)suffolk.lib.ny.
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 2:24 pm Post subject: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC

OC and others

L think its  time to talk about cutting off the lower part of the original

skinny nose gear leg and splicing on a lower part of a RV or Grumman nose

wheel including the wheel assembly.These are larger diameter legs and have

proven wheel adjustment parts.[I remember what OC went through to develop

his Teflon washer design].

  L will sign off and watch the site light up/off.

                                        Ted

Flyinisfun(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 4:00 pm Post subject: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC

Hi Ted,

  

 I exchanged my nose gear by having it reworked by Lyle Hendricks.  I  have banged it hard and have had no problems with it.  No I don't have a  lot of hrs. on it but have the teflon washer in the swivel of the gear and  have had no shimmy.  The nose gear design needs some attention as I have  just done my annual and the permanent bearing were rough, so I replaced  them.  They need a spacer between them so the shaft can be tightened down  and lock us the inter race.  I don't think the bearings were designed  to have a side load of any extent applied to them, so they suffer.  If  you should go with Lyle's design have him cut you a spacer and have him install  it.  This leaves a troubling question though, how do you press the old  bearing out in order to replace them.  The spacer would need a slot  cut in it so one could insert a cross, flat bar to remove the  bearings.  

  

 Things are developing with me and I'm learning how to make good landings  with the plane.  I am doing better by putting about 1/4" up  elevator trim tab, which takes away the null spot and it gives  me a feel of what is going on.  Easier to make fine adjustments in the  slot before touchdown.

  

         Jesse  Wright

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bakerocb

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 727
Location: FAIRFAX VA

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 6:31 pm Post subject: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC

5/30/2010



Hello Ted, You wrote:



1) "L think its  time to talk about cutting off the lower part of the 

original skinny nose gear leg and splicing on a lower part of a RV or 

Grumman nose wheel including the wheel assembly."



{Response} What sort of problems are you having that causes you to make this 

suggestion at this time? Your suggestion implies that the skinny spring 

steel strut is OK, but that the lower end is causing problems.



2) "These are larger diameter legs and have proven wheel adjustment parts."



{Response} I never had one of the skinny spring steel nose landing gear 

strut / assemblies so I am not familiar with its lower end. Both the 

streamlined shaped strut that I received initially and the subsequent round 

strut that Lyle Hendricks made for me had a 3/4 inch diameter (if I remember 

right) vertical stub at the bottom end.



Are you suggesting that the RVs and Grummans (how about the Cirruses?) have 

a larger diameter vertical stub and that we should go in that direction in 

order to use the remainder of the lower end assembly that those aircraft 

have?



3) "[I remember what OC went through to develop his Teflon washer design]."



{Response} I replaced the Belleville washers in my nose landing gear 

vertical stub stack up with nylon washers. They have given me excellent 

service. I have no nose wheel shimmy problems. The friction is pretty tight 

and it takes a good stab at the brake pedal to change direction of taxi.



I don't know where one could buy standard sized Teflon washers ready made in 

small quantities. Do you know of such a source?



3) "L will sign off and watch the site light up/off."



I too look forward to the thoughts and comments of other KIS builders on 

this issue. Lyle, do you have any thoughts on Ted's suggestion?



Thanks,



'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to 

gather and understand knowledge."



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ftyoder(at)yoderbuilt.com
Guest

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 5:21 am Post subject: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC

The Cirrus has a 1" down rod.



Tim

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sstearns2(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 12:44 pm Post subject: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC

I think if I were building a nosegear KIS I'd take a hard look at just buying a nosegear from an RV-6 or 9 and adapting it.  RVs have their own problems, but the noselegs don't seem to collapse.  

  

 Scott



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From: F. Tim Yoder <ftyoder(at)yoderbuilt.com>

Subject: Re: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC

To: kis-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 6:14 AM



 --> KIS-List message posted by: "F. Tim Yoder" <ftyoder(at)yoderbuilt.com (ftyoder(at)yoderbuilt.com)>



The Cirrus has a 1" down rod.



Tim

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gbrighton(at)skymesh.com.
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:10 am Post subject: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC

Scott,

                Haven't heard anything of ur TR1 progress .... close to first flt ...or .maybe  ur airborne already .. Any update ...!???

  

 Graham 

  

  

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sstearns2(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:33 am Post subject: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC

Hello,

  

 I'm getting close to flying.  I got the airworthiness certificate last week and got the insurance going.  The airplane is ready and running well and now I'm trying to get my tailwheel skills built up.  I've taxied it around the airport a few times and will hopefully do a high speed taxi and lift the tail this week.  We'll see how it goes.  

  

 Scott



--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Graham Brighton <gbrighton(at)skymesh.com.au> wrote:



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From: Graham Brighton <gbrighton(at)skymesh.com.au>

Subject: Re: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC

To: kis-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 6:09 AM



    Scott,

               Haven't heard anything of ur TR1 progress .... close to first flt ...or ..maybe ur airborne already .. Any update ...!???

  

 Graham 

  

  

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richard_trickel(at)yahoo.
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:44 am Post subject: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC

SCOTT

 hOW ABOUT SENDING ME A PICTURE.

 RICH



--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Scott Stearns <sstearns2(at)yahoo.com> wrote:



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From: Scott Stearns <sstearns2(at)yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC

To: kis-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 9:30 AM



      Hello,

  

 I'm getting close to flying.  I got the airworthiness certificate last week and got the insurance going.  The airplane is ready and running well and now I'm trying to get my tailwheel skills built up.  I've taxied it around the airport a few times and will hopefully do a high speed taxi and lift the tail this week.  We'll see how it goes.  

  

 Scott



--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Graham Brighton <gbrighton(at)skymesh.com.au> wrote:



 [quote]

From: Graham Brighton <gbrighton(at)skymesh.com.au>

Subject: Re: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC

To: kis-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 6:09 AM



    Scott,

               Haven't heard anything of ur TR1 progress .... close to first flt ...or ..maybe ur airborne already .. Any update ...!???

  

 Graham 

  

  

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ftyoder(at)yoderbuilt.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:47 pm Post subject: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC

What about putting some on Bob Reed's  site???

  

 Tim

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sstearns2(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:15 pm Post subject: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC

That's true, I should.  I guess is officially a completion now.

  

 Scott



--- On Tue, 6/1/10, F. Tim Yoder <ftyoder(at)yoderbuilt.com> wrote:



 [quote]

From: F. Tim Yoder <ftyoder(at)yoderbuilt.com>

Subject: Re: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC

To: kis-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 7:46 PM



  What about putting some on Bob Reed's site???

  

 Tim

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