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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:02 pm    Post subject: [QUAR] Re: Sad Report: Another TR-4 Down Reply with quote

http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/drc/localnews/denton/stories/DRC_Plane_crash_0719.152fe0fdf.html ... Denton article

From: owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Trickel
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 1:24 PM
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: [QUAR] Re: KIS-List: Sad Report: Another TR-4 Down
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I did not know mr Culp but my sincer condolances go out to him and his family.. I read that his wif passed away at the hospital afterwords but cannot confirm this.

Rich

Yep that is our news service today

--- On Mon, 7/19/10, Scott Stearns <sstearns2(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
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From: Scott Stearns <sstearns2(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Sad Report: Another TR-4 Down
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 8:04 PM
I wouldn't blame the trooper. The newspaper reporter could have done 5 minutes worth of internet research, but instead just quoted the person standing next to them.



Scott

--- On Mon, 7/19/10, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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From: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Sad Report: Another TR-4 Down
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 12:51 PM
Especially when they make a comment like:



A Department of Public Safety trooper said the type of aircraft it was may have increased the risk of a crash. "Whenever someone makes an aircraft - maybe it's called a kit plane - they put it together themselves and then it's labeled experimental," trooper Lonny Haschel said. "That may have been what we are dealing with."

As if being a trooper qualifies him to make a statement like that.



Our prayers go out to the pilot and passenger.



Galin

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Bill Schertz <wschertz(at)comcast.net> wrote:
I believe John Davis had installed a Subaru engine in his plane. Hadn't heard that he sold it, but must have.



Sad, hate to see these things happen.



Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase I testing



From: Robert Reed

Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 10:21 PM

To: kis-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: KIS-List: Sad Report: Another TR-4 Down





Reported on the news tonight in Dallas: An Experimental Aircraft - TR-4 manufactured by John Davis in 2006 Tail number N767GW crashed near Denton Texas. Two passengers on board were taken to Parkland Hospital in Dallas for treatment of injuries. No additional information on who was flying or on-board. The plane was totally destroyed by fire with only the tail section appearing to be in tact.



From what I have been able to learn the plane was registered Harold Culp in Carrollton Texas. I didn't even know there was a KIS TR-4 in the area.



Error! Filename not specified.



I will update as more information becomes available but in the mean time please keep the pilot and passenger in your prayers.



Bob Reed







DENTON (CBS 11 / TXA 21) ―
A two seat aircraft failed to gain enough altitude and crashed about a mile south of [url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=UDnDH3lvSFE.en.&am=!L9LcuAB3v6axhfwb0PImgM6L3ZyN_zvwhw5Y2a3AV6D35l1WYk8&fri#129ec0fe11ebb2ad_]DentonError! Filename not specified.[/url] Municipal Airport around 7:15 p.m. Sunday. A husband and wife were on board and transported by a CareFlite helicopter to Parkland Hospital with severe burns.

John Cabrales, City of Denton spokesman, called the plane an "experimental two-seat aircraft" and confirmed that it took flight at about 7:12 p.m. from that [url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=UDnDH3lvSFE.en.&am=!L9LcuAB3v6axhfwb0PImgM6L3ZyN_zvwhw5Y2a3AV6D35l1WYk8&fri#129ec0fe11ebb2ad_]airportError! Filename not specified.[/url].

The plane was cleared for take-off by the airport's control tower, but could not gain altitude fast enough. It lost [url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=UDnDH3lvSFE.en.&am=!L9LcuAB3v6axhfwb0PImgM6L3ZyN_zvwhw5Y2a3AV6D35l1WYk8&fri#129ec0fe11ebb2ad_]power[/url] in the wind and plummeted to the ground.

At about 8:30 p.m., officers had sectioned off about a 50 yard section of the field where the plane went down. In the middle of the area was the demolished aircraft, which burst into flames during the crash. Debris from the plane was scattered across the sectioned off area in all directions.

Investigators from the Federal Aviation Agency will look into what caused the crash. A Department of Public Safety trooper said the type of aircraft it was may have increased the risk of a crash.

"Whenever someone makes an aircraft - maybe it's called a kit plane - they put it together themselves and then it's labeled experimental," trooper Lonny Haschel said. "That may have been what we are dealing with."





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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:04 pm    Post subject: [QUAR] Re: Sad Report: Another TR-4 Down Reply with quote

The parts are really scattered around. It doesn't look like a controlled off field landing. The factory TR-4 was landed in a muddy field and it remained intact and was repaired. It looks like there's fire damage on the wing root in the picture to me. Click on it to see the full size one.

I think I'm going to work on my fire bottle mount.

Scott

--- On Mon, 7/19/10, Conners, Jerry L <jconners(at)dot.state.nv.us> wrote:

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From: Conners, Jerry L <jconners(at)dot.state.nv.us>
Subject: RE: [QUAR] Re: Sad Report: Another TR-4 Down
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 1:55 PM


http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/drc/localnews/denton/stories/DRC_Plane_crash_0719.152fe0fdf.html ... Denton article



From: owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Trickel
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 1:24 PM
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: [QUAR] Re: Sad Report: Another TR-4 Down
Importance: Low




To All


I did not know mr Culp but my sincer condolances go out to him and his family.. I read that his wif passed away at the hospital afterwords but cannot confirm this.


Rich


Yep that is our news service today

--- On Mon, 7/19/10, Scott Stearns <sstearns2(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:


From: Scott Stearns <sstearns2(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Sad Report: Another TR-4 Down
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 8:04 PM

I wouldn't blame the trooper. The newspaper reporter could have done 5 minutes worth of internet research, but instead just quoted the person standing next to them.





Scott

--- On Mon, 7/19/10, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:


From: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Sad Report: Another TR-4 Down
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 12:51 PM

Especially when they make a comment like:





A Department of Public Safety trooper said the type of aircraft it was may have increased the risk of a crash. "Whenever someone makes an aircraft - maybe it's called a kit plane - they put it together themselves and then it's labeled experimental," trooper Lonny Haschel said. "That may have been what we are dealing with."


As if being a trooper qualifies him to make a statement like that.





Our prayers go out to the pilot and passenger.





Galin


On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Bill Schertz <wschertz(at)comcast.net> wrote:

I believe John Davis had installed a Subaru engine in his plane. Hadn't heard that he sold it, but must have.





Sad, hate to see these things happen.





Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase I testing





From: Robert Reed


Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 10:21 PM


To: kis-list(at)matronics.com


Subject: Sad Report: Another TR-4 Down





Reported on the news tonight in Dallas: An Experimental Aircraft - TR-4 manufactured by John Davis in 2006 Tail number N767GW crashed near Denton Texas. Two passengers on board were taken to Parkland Hospital in Dallas for treatment of injuries. No additional information on who was flying or on-board. The plane was totally destroyed by fire with only the tail section appearing to be in tact.





From what I have been able to learn the plane was registered Harold Culp in Carrollton Texas. I didn't even know there was a KIS TR-4 in the area.





Error! Filename not specified.





I will update as more information becomes available but in the mean time please keep the pilot and passenger in your prayers.





Bob Reed











DENTON (CBS 11 / TXA 21) ―

A two seat aircraft failed to gain enough altitude and crashed about a mile south of [url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=UDnDH3lvSFE.en.&am=!L9LcuAB3v6axhfwb0PImgM6L3ZyN_zvwhw5Y2a3AV6D35l1WYk8&fri#129ec0fe11ebb2ad_]DentonError! Filename not specified.[/url] Municipal Airport around 7:15 p.m. Sunday. A husband and wife were on board and transported by a CareFlite helicopter to Parkland Hospital with severe burns.

John Cabrales, City of Denton spokesman, called the plane an "experimental two-seat aircraft" and confirmed that it took flight at about 7:12 p.m. from that [url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=UDnDH3lvSFE.en.&am=!L9LcuAB3v6axhfwb0PImgM6L3ZyN_zvwhw5Y2a3AV6D35l1WYk8&fri#129ec0fe11ebb2ad_]airportError! Filename not specified.[/url].

The plane was cleared for take-off by the airport's control tower, but could not gain altitude fast enough. It lost [url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=UDnDH3lvSFE.en.&am=!L9LcuAB3v6axhfwb0PImgM6L3ZyN_zvwhw5Y2a3AV6D35l1WYk8&fri#129ec0fe11ebb2ad_]power[/url] in the wind and plummeted to the ground.

At about 8:30 p.m., officers had sectioned off about a 50 yard section of the field where the plane went down. In the middle of the area was the demolished aircraft, which burst into flames during the crash. Debris from the plane was scattered across the sectioned off area in all directions.

Investigators from the Federal Aviation Agency will look into what caused the crash. A Department of Public Safety trooper said the type of aircraft it was may have increased the risk of a crash.

"Whenever someone makes an aircraft - maybe it's called a kit plane - they put it together themselves and then it's labeled experimental," trooper Lonny Haschel said. "That may have been what we are dealing with."
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