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pdn8r(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject: 601XL v. 701Cabin Comfort



Hello All,

I've been mulling over the 601XL vs. the 701 and have a question about the cabin size. Yes, I have researched the Zenith website and compared the measurements but am looking for some real world input. I'm a 6 footer and weigh about 220. The 601XL seems like it would be a roomier and more comfortable cabin just from looking at pictures even though the dimensions are not substantially different than the 701. For my type of flying either model would suit me fine as far as performance etc. but am concerned about he fit. Thanks in advance for the input.

Bill Pagan

Florida

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/9749/william.html

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zodierocket(at)hsfx.ca
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: 601XL v. 701Cabin Comfort



Bill , this has been covered many, many times and is in the archives.

However, at 5'10 and 235lbs there is more then enough room in the 601XL

that I can even wear a large hat. The 701 typically has more headroom

and with the new bubble doors from Zenith the cabin width is a full 44"

the same as the 601XL. Fitting you is not a problem in either plane even

with a passenger of the same size. You should consider what you really

want to do with your plane. The 701 is a special breed and is a STOL

performer. IF the drastic STOL performance of a 701 is unnecessary then

go with the 601XL. Both planes offer an incredible view and the high

wing over the low wing in the view aspect seems negligible. Personal

preference and mission are the lists you should be drawing up to help in

your decision now.

Check out

http://www.frappr.com/zenith601

and

http://www.frappr.com/zenith701

Look for builders and owners in your area and plan for a visit, I have

yet to ever meet a Zenith owner who would not let me have a seat in

there plane. Zenith builders are just the cream of the crop when it come

to a group of friendly people. Plus check out Sun-N-Fun, you are also

more then Welcome to join in on the 2nd annual Webmasters BBQ being held

on Thursday evening April 6th 2006 ! for Zenith builders and owners. Did

I just let a cat out of the bag?

You can also find more information at www.ch601.org and www.ch701.com

Mark Townsend

Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.

president(at)can-zacaviation.com

www.can-zacaviation.com

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larrymc(at)qconline.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject: 601XL v. 701Cabin Comfort



Bill,

There's a world of difference in these two aircraft, but I can say

unequivocally that the 601 is a more comfortable and accommodating

environment for the large guy. Besides, the extremely good view and

performance the XL provides. If you want to go places, the

601 is more of a destination plane. The 701 is world class STOL but

considerably slower, nearer to something like owning a helicopter.

Their both great planes, but are really different breeds. You should

definitively examine your flying experience and the kind of places

you want to go for the one that will do the best job for you.

Larry McFarland - 601HDS with a bias for light cross country at

www.macsmachine.com

do not archive

Bill Pagan wrote:

Hello All,

I've been mulling over the 601XL vs. the 701 and have a question about the cabin size. Yes, I have researched the Zenith website and compared the measurements but am looking for some real world input. I'm a 6 footer and weigh about 220. The 601XL seems like it would be a roomier and more comfortable cabin just from looking at pictures even though the dimensions are not substantially different than the 701. For my type of flying either model would suit me fine as far as performance etc. but am concerned about he fit. Thanks in advance for the input.

Bill Pagan

Florida

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/9749/william.html

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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: 601XL v. 701Cabin Comfort



I was going to point you at the 601 and 701 members maps to find planes in

Florida. But it looks like something is wrong with at least the 601 map.

Also Florida is a "long" state. But tell us where you are located and I'll

bet you can find an xl and 701 to sit in. With this size of an investment

you could afford to fly to Mexico, MO and sit in the factory demos.

-- Craig

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NYTerminat(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: 601XL v. 701Cabin Comfort



Mark

You have took the words right out of my mouth. You actually said it much

better than I would have.

I originally went to the Zenith factory to look at the 601XL and didn't like

the way that you had to climb into the 601. That's just me. They showed me the

701 and my initial reaction was it was too small (much like a toy), then I

saw the 801 and took a test fight in it. Nick took my wife and I up for a flight

and I immediately fell in love with the size and handling. I scheduled the

rudder workshop for the 801 in Oct 94.

My wife and I built the rudder and was ecstatic at how easy it was( we all

know how good the rudder draings are compared to the rest of the kit). I went

home and had to decide whether to order the kit or not. I wanted to be able to

fly from my own property and decided to clear land and see where I could get

the longest strip in line with the prevailing westerly wind. I was able to get a

1300 ft grass strip with power lines on one side and trees on the other.

I still wasn't completely convinced that the 801 was my best choice for my

1st build. I looked again at the info pack that Zenith sent me home with and

looked hard at the 701 as my 1st build. I felt that the 801 was perfect for me

(was used to flying with 4 seats in Pipers and Cessnas) but it was so slow and I

felt that I would be disappointed with that. Looking at the 701 at roughly

1/2 the price I felt that I would loose the 2 extra seats and almost get the

same speed. I could always build another plane at some later date if I chose to.

I was comfortable with the decision and called Shirley in the end of November

to place my order. I was ready to build a plane and Shirley told me that there

was a 10-12 week lead time for the kit, but would try to get the tail out

sooner. Received my first crate at the end of January and started building a

CH-701 on 2/8/05. My rudder, elevator and stabilizer was done by 2/20/05 and I

had to wait for the rest of the kit. March 4th the Yellow freight driver

dropped off the big crate with the rest of the plane.

I am now built, painted and almost ready for my DAR inspection scheduled for

1/11/05. The building has been a hoot and loved the experience. All the guy's

on the list have been great and very informative. THANK YOU EVERYONE! While

most of the info I got off the list has been thru following other peoples

questions and problems, When I have had a specific question I have quickly gotten

an answer.

I have not had to have too many calls to Zenith (a few in the beginning to

Nick and then a couple to Roger). They have always been quick to answer my

questions. The drawings took a while to get used to reading and the info is not

always where you would expect to find it, but for the most part the info is there

if you look hard enough. The photo guide has been a big help but as some have

mentioned don't rely on them and ALWAYS verify things with the plans. I have

made some parts over because I didn't look ahead to the next couple of steps

but that's all part of the building experience. I have a lot of respect for the

scratch builders out there. I wouldn't have the patience to fabricate every

part.

I found what adds time to the building process is when you add your own

stuff. I chose to install Larry's wing tip access doors, additional fuselage oil

canning stiffeners, as well as the additional rear fuselage door ( a must in my

opinon). I installed an electric flap operator and taxi, landing lights in the

leading edge of the slats (that was fun). I also picked up some century 3

auto pilot servos from E-bay. I have them installed for roll and pitch and

control them from my stick grip. ( no actual autopilot head yet) I call it my "poor

mans autopilot". It should allow me to point the plane in the direction that

I want it to go and be able to leave the stick alone.

To those who are contemplating their 1st build I highly recommend a Zenith

kit. I found the Rudder workshop was the best way to start to immerse yourself

into aircraft building. Zenith has been great as well as Danny and Zaneta from

Skyshops. I bought the firewall forward package from them. They have been very

helpful with my questions as the Czechworks drawings also leave a lot to be

desired. They have updated their parts but not the drawings.

I didn't plan on writing this novel but I felt that those lurking out ther

would appreciate the info.

Bob Spudis

N701ZX CH-701/912S

just total my builders log-1161.5 hrs

In a message dated 1/1/2006 7:44:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,

zodierocket(at)hsfx.ca writes:

Bill , this has been covered many, many times and is in the archives.

However, at 5'10 and 235lbs there is more then enough room in the 601XL

that I can even wear a large hat. The 701 typically has more headroom

and with the new bubble doors from Zenith the cabin width is a full 44"

the same as the 601XL. Fitting you is not a problem in either plane even

with a passenger of the same size. You should consider what you really

want to do with your plane. The 701 is a special breed and is a STOL

performer. IF the drastic STOL performance of a 701 is unnecessary then

go with the 601XL. Both planes offer an incredible view and the high

wing over the low wing in the view aspect seems negligible. Personal

preference and mission are the lists you should be drawing up to help in

your decision now.

Check out

http://www.frappr.com/zenith601

and

http://www.frappr.com/zenith701

Look for builders and owners in your area and plan for a visit, I have

yet to ever meet a Zenith owner who would not let me have a seat in

there plane. Zenith builders are just the cream of the crop when it come

to a group of friendly people. Plus check out Sun-N-Fun, you are also

more then Welcome to join in on the 2nd annual Webmasters BBQ being held

on Thursday evening April 6th 2006 ! for Zenith builders and owners. Did

I just let a cat out of the bag?

You can also find more information at www.ch601.org and www.ch701.com

Mark Townsend

Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.

president(at)can-zacaviation.com

www.can-zacaviation.com

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dgarrou(at)hunton.com
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:29 pm Post subject: 601XL v. 701Cabin Comfort



Bob, we would love to see pics and get a description of your leading edge lights. We've been pondering how best to put a landing light on our 801.

Cheers

Doug Garrou

Project 801

www.garrou.com

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