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10flyer(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: X/C into a convection oven

Tim, as others have mentioned, the desert southwest is primarily a nice ride 

in the morning. Be sure to factor in the June/July gloom doom along the 

coast in the summer time. Generally speaking there is an overcast in the 

mornings until around 11am and it returns about 2-3pm. Some days it is 

present all day. I live just inland from Oceanside in Temecula(F70) and it 

is usually clear after 10am. The overcast is typically about 1k ft and tops 

out at 3k ft and it is very easy to get pop-up approaches into airports and 

get the runway well before mins. If you get time, or get stuck, drop by 

French Valley (F70) for a visit. Mark N104ML (65hrs)

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:44 pm Post subject: X/C into a convection oven

Ok, ok, so the increase was actually 100 times bigger than I thought!





Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Jesse Saint wrote:

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 .55 cents isn't bad in one jump.  Now, if it had been 55 cents or .55

 dollar(s), that would be a big jump. 

 

 Do not archive.

 

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 jesse(at)itecusa.org

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bob.kaufmann(at)cox.net
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:34 pm Post subject: X/C into a convection oven

At least here in Vegas it's a dry heat.  



Bob K



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bob.kaufmann(at)cox.net
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:34 pm Post subject: X/C into a convection oven

Well the weather in Vegas, the Nevada one is really bad that time of year.  You have terrible visability and really can’t see much farther than 80 or 90 miles.  It’s ocassionally overcast, high thin that is, and generally the con level is around 40,000 feet.  Thermals pick up in the afternoon, so its best to fly in the morning, afternoons, the temperatures make for a longer landing roll.  May take the 10 almost 800 feet to get airborn.  Learn to taxi with the doors open, and get high fast, 10,000 is a nice cruise altitude.  May be afternoon thundertstorms, but real fireworks is in the Valley on the 4th.  If you are real lucky, you may also be able to see a building implosion, so come on down.  

   

Bob K  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Moon

 Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:56 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: X/C into a convection oven  

  

   

   I have done all of my training in and around Arizona.  It really isn't that bad, you just have to do it early.  I've done the afternoons in the summer and really they aren't too bad, assuming there aren't any thunderstorms around.  Generally, the first thunderstorms seem to start on or within one day of the Fourth of July.  Best bet is to be down before two or three o'clock.  You could also go for the bumpy ride at Va and just avoid the build up.

    By the way, it is currently 95 here in Phoenix...uuugghh...I've been here for seven years and I still don't like it.  "Dry heat"....yeah, right....when it is 110 it doesn't matter if it is dry, damp or wet.....It's too frikken hot!

 

 --Shawn

 40366

 

 Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:  

Ok, so I'm paranoid...

 

 There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from

 Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's

 *only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem

 is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,

 and then up to Vegas and down to San   Diego. One thing I

 did some research on is the average daily temps, which get

 into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...

 and that's "average". The other much more minor issue

 is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max

 mountain height is 10,000'.

 

 What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there

 in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,

 tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely

 to see during that time of year right around July 1st?

 

 I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,

 but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.

 

 All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the

 last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for

 a flight. You'd be cooking up here.

 

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bob.kaufmann(at)cox.net
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject: X/C into a convection oven

You can hangar your plane in VGT at our hangar, we have the room.

Bob K



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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1700
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: X/C into a convection oven

Welcome to our world. As a WI native and after 20+ years of flying in Alaska, I started with similar apprehensions when I moved to AZ 13 years ago. While I did plenty of mountain flying in Alaska, it is totally different. Here DA is everything, as is thermal turbulence. I'd suggest what an acquaintance in Wausau frequently does. Fly to Dalhart or Borger TX first day.(both are cheaper than LVS). If all is still smooth you might go on to Tucumcari.  That will be about 5+ hours. Relax at a comfortable motel and turn in early. If you depart by 6:30 in the morning, you will gain 2 hours of time zone and be over the Grand Canyon area in 2-3 hours, well before 10 am. If you fly after noon, you will want O2 and up around 13K or more to get out of the bumps. Lucky for you the RV-10 has plenty of power and climb to deal with high DA. It isn't unusual for any field elevation over 5K to have DA near double that in the afternoon. Fortunately, once you get above oh maybe 6-7K the temps will be generally below 70 and reasonably comfortable. Fatigue and dehydration are distinct issues if you press on after lunch. Between LAS and MYF watch out for the restricted areas in CA..they don't exactly make N/S travel all that easy.

 

 Tim Olson wrote:  	  Quote: 	
		  Ok, so I'm paranoid...   

   

 There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from   

 Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st.  It's   

 *only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem.  The problem   

 is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,   

 and then up to Vegas and down to San Diego.  One thing I   

 did some research on is the average daily temps, which get   

 into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...   

 and that's "average".   The other much more minor issue   

 is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max   

 mountain height is 10,000'.   

   

 What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there   

 in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,   

 tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely   

 to see during that time of year right around July 1st?   

   

 I've attached a picture of my route.  It's not straight,   

 but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.   

   

 All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the   

 last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for   

 a flight.  You'd be cooking up here.

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armywrights(at)adelphia.n
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject: X/C into a convection oven

If forced, then go commercial.  Don't do anything in a small GA until you

know you're ready to push _your_ limits.



rob



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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 3:21 am Post subject: X/C into a convection oven

Well, it's not so much that I'm forced to take our plane.  I'm the

one who refuses to go commercial for this trip...it's a waste of

cash to get no enjoyment.  I figured I'll only go if I can fly

ourselves and see some sights, even if it costs double, which

it very well might.  I'm not so much worried about the trip

pushing my personal limits as I am not knowing exactly what

to expect for that trip.  That's a part of the country that

I've only been in once, driving from Vegas to San Fran as a

quick trip.  And, been to Vegas a couple times but only in

that town.  Other than that, I don't know that I've ever been

to New Mexico, and only once to Texas and I'm not sure about

Arizona.  So I just don't know the area.  You guys are great

at filling me in though.  I'm learning that the main thing

is fly early, but other than that, it seems practical.

Maybe if you all turn your A/C on that day and leave the windows

open I could have a better ride. 



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Robert G. Wright wrote:

[quote] 

 

 If forced, then go commercial.  Don't do anything in a small GA until you

 know you're ready to push _your_ limits.

 

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 6:57 am Post subject: X/C into a convection oven

I just wanted to say thanks again for all the replies on the

trip through the Vegas area.  I didn't reply to every one of

the personal off-list emails I got either, but I got a ton,

and even a phone call.  You guys don't know how much I appreciate

this list, and I consider most everyone as a friend.  It's

amazing the camaraderie this activity and list can generate.

Thanks for all the offers of places to stay, and everything

else.  I know one thing for sure, if you're flying into

KVGT, you won't have problems finding a place to hanger and

RV-10's to see. 



If anyone is ever passing through MSP or Western Wisconsin,

I'll do what I can to make your stop good too.  There aren't

open hangers at our field, but if it's only one plane I may

be able to get the FBO to take it overnight for free. He's

a good guy.



In addition, I'll mention this more later, but we're about

1 hour out of OSH to the West.  For those flying into OSH

this year from the West, I'm hoping to gather a group

that flies in to KLUM on the night before, and then in the

a.m. we can all launch together and fly in as a group

of -10s.   As I said, more details later.  I've also contacted

the EAA (no reply yet) about getting a parking area all together.



Tim



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