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bakerocb
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 Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:33 am Post subject: KIS TR-1C Autopilot |
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10/27/2010
Hello Jason, You wrote: "....then probably adding a TruTrak autopilot
coupled to the 430W..."
I know that Tru Trak is the big bear in the autopilot market, but before you
go that way please take a close look at the Trio Avionics products:
http://www.trioavionics.com/
My hangar partner has a Tru Trak autopilot in his RV-7 and he was not
completely satisfied with it so I put an EZ Pilot control head in my KIS
TR-1 coupled to my GNS 430W. I used their wiring harness adapter and my
already installed Navaid AP 1 servo. It works great and I am very satisfied
with it.
'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to
gather and understand knowledge."
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Scott/Mark,
I'm not planning any major engine upgrades for my plane, at least not just
yet... I just overhauled the engine 2 years ago.
Current projects are getting the bugs out of the new engine monitor system
(JPI EDM 740), improving engine cooling (problems found with the new engine
monitor), then probably adding a TruTrak autopilot coupled to the 430W, and
upgrading to a more efficient prop. Maybe after all of that if I need more
speed I'll consider doing some upgrades to the engine....
For whoever asked, my plane is a taildragger, and I did add gear leg
intersection fairings this past summer. We considered fairing the legs
themselves, but decided it probably wasn't really worth the effort, at least
for now.
Of course I'm also building an RV-8 in my garage. Not because the KIS isn't
a good plane, just because I want to build an RV. I do appreciate the short
field performance, lower stall speed and higher aerobatic g-limits of the RV
(compared to the KIS), and I really like the tandem design. Plus I didn't
build my KIS, and I'm having a lot of fun building. Although I've learned a
TON working on the TR-1c the past 5.5 years... having now pretty much redone
the firewall forward and the panel.
..Jason
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galinhdz(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:05 am Post subject: KIS TR-1C Autopilot |
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I have to add to what OC stated regarding the TRIO autopilot. Dave installed the TRIO with altitude hold and it was an excellent choice. I have it slaved to my 430W and 496 via a selector switch and I can't say enough about it. My long flights are much more enjoyable by letting "Otto" fly for a while.
I had one issue with the TRIO drifting off course but Chuck, from TRIO, fixed it for free even though the initial install appeared to cause the problem. I recommend it as a stand alone autopilot with the GOLD standard servo instead of the NAVAID servos.
Galin
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On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:27 AM, <bakerocb(at)cox.net (bakerocb(at)cox.net)> wrote:
[quote] --> KIS-List message posted by: <bakerocb(at)cox.net (bakerocb(at)cox.net)>
10/27/2010
Hello Jason, You wrote: "....then probably adding a TruTrak autopilot coupled to the 430W..."
I know that Tru Trak is the big bear in the autopilot market, but before you go that way please take a close look at the Trio Avionics products:
http://www.trioavionics.com/
My hangar partner has a Tru Trak autopilot in his RV-7 and he was not completely satisfied with it so I put an EZ Pilot control head in my KIS TR-1 coupled to my GNS 430W. I used their wiring harness adapter and my already installed Navaid AP 1 servo. It works great and I am very satisfied with it.
'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to gather and understand knowledge."
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Scott/Mark,
I'm not planning any major engine upgrades for my plane, at least not just yet... I just overhauled the engine 2 years ago.
Current projects are getting the bugs out of the new engine monitor system (JPI EDM 740), improving engine cooling (problems found with the new engine monitor), then probably adding a TruTrak autopilot coupled to the 430W, and upgrading to a more efficient prop. Maybe after all of that if I need more speed I'll consider doing some upgrades to the engine....
For whoever asked, my plane is a taildragger, and I did add gear leg intersection fairings this past summer. We considered fairing the legs themselves, but decided it probably wasn't really worth the effort, at least for now.
Of course I'm also building an RV-8 in my garage. Not because the KIS isn't a good plane, just because I want to build an RV. I do appreciate the short field performance, lower stall speed and higher aerobatic g-limits of the RV (compared to the KIS), and I really like the tandem design. Plus I didn't build my KIS, and I'm having a lot of fun building. Although I've learned a TON working on the TR-1c the past 5.5 years... having now pretty much redone the firewall forward and the panel.
..Jason
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richard_trickel(at)yahoo.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:11 am Post subject: KIS TR-1C Autopilot |
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Jason
By the way I like the trio also. The price is good and they work great.
Rich
--- On Wed, 10/27/10, Jason Hills <jason(at)hills.org> wrote:
From: Jason Hills <jason(at)hills.org>
Subject: Re: KIS TR-1C Autopilot
To: "<bakerocb(at)cox.net>" <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 4:09 PM
OC,
What issues has your hanger partner had with the TruTrak?
I know one RV-10 where there were some initial issues with the trim that caused some unsafe pitch excursions, but everyone I know loves theirs (including the RV-10 owner). Worth checking out other options too of course. I won't be doing that upgrade until next fall or winter most likely.
..Jason
On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:27 AM, <bakerocb(at)cox.net> wrote:
[quote] 10/27/2010
Hello Jason, You wrote: "....then probably adding a TruTrak autopilot coupled to the 430W..."
I know that Tru Trak is the big bear in the autopilot market, but before you go that way please take a close look at the Trio Avionics products:
http://www.trioavionics.com/
My hangar partner has a Tru Trak autopilot in his RV-7 and he was not completely satisfied with it so I put an EZ Pilot control head in my KIS TR-1 coupled to my GNS 430W. I used their wiring harness adapter and my already installed Navaid AP 1 servo. It works great and I am very satisfied with it
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bakerocb
Joined: 15 Jan 2006
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Location: FAIRFAX VA
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:43 pm Post subject: KIS TR-1C Autopilot |
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10/27/2010
Hello Jason, This looks like the Tru Trak autopilot that my hangar partner
has in his RV-7.
http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/products/Digitrak.html
The main complaint that I recall is that while operating the autopilot could
become uncoupled or OFF (maybe by inadvertently bumping a switch) and there
was no visible indication of that uncoupled status on the instrument panel.
I will include him as a bcc addressee on this email and he might have more
to offer.
Two other factors that steered me toward the Tri Avionics EZ Pilot and away
from the Digitrak were:
1) The two buttons only manipulation on the Tru Trak Digitrak did not seem
very intuitive to me with multipurpose use of the buttons along with timing
and remembering what did what when.
2) The ability and ease with which I could use my already installed Navaid
1 AP servo.
'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to
gather and understand knowledge."
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