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 Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:50 am Post subject: obit |
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I hope you all don't mind, but, I felt this was an
important message to pass on to the group. It
is taken from another forum, but, applies to all
who have enjoyed even a moment, in the air.
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Another aviation legend goes west... this from the Cessna Pilots
Association e-letter, 4/20/06... just in case you haven't heard.
Legendary X-15 Pilot and CPA Member Scott Crossfield killed in
Cessna 210 crash in Georgia. Wednesday, April 19th, 2006,
Scott Crossfield, age 84, left Prattville, Alabama about 9AM in his
1961 Cessna 210A. He was alone & headed home to Manassas,
Virginia. A little before noon radar & radio contact with Scott was
lost about 50 miles northwest of Atlanta. There were Thunder-
storms in the area at the time. There's also an unconfirmed report
that there were engine problems. The wreckage of the aircraft with
Scott's body on board, was found by searchers about 1PM EST
today near Ranger, Georgia.
Scott was the first of the "Engineering Test Pilots."
An aeronautical engineer by education, he took test flying from the
seat of the pants days to that of an exacting science.
His accomplishments are many, including:
- First to fly at Mach 2
- First to fly the X-15
- Set speed & altitude records (later exceeded) of Mach 2.97,
& 81,000 feet, in the X-15.
- First to fly at Mach 3
When I was a teenager I read a book, "Always Another Dawn", that
Scott had written about his experiences on the Douglas Skyrocket
& the North American X-15 programs. That book was one of the
influences that steered me to a career in aviation. And when ever
I started thinking that I was a pretty good pilot, I would remember
the film of Scott landing the X-15, with a control problem. The air-
craft is bucking like a bronco, clearly not in full control. Scott is
timing the dips, so the aircraft can contact the lake bed, at the
bottom of one of the dips, before it runs out of airspeed & stalls.
He might have been the only pilot in the world that could have pulled
of that feat, but he did. Clearly, a pilot with skills beyond that of all
but the very best.
About 20 years ago a gentleman with a broad brimmed hat comes
in to the Cessna Pilots Association tent at Oshkosh and says he
would like to talk with "John Frank" about his 210A. He introduces
himself to me & I am dumbstruck & speechless. Here was the man
I had admired all these many years & he was asking me questions!!!
We had a very nice visit that lead to a close friendship these past two
decades. I found Scott to be a very warm person, who was totally
unassuming about his accomplishments.
When the news came to me this morning that Scott had been killed in
a plane crash, I found it almost impossible to believe. My hero, my
mentor, my friend, gone. And as I close this obituary with a safety
tag line I have used frequently, there are tears streaming from my eyes.
More than ever- LETS ALL OF US BE CAREFUL UP THERE.
PLEASE ARCHIVE
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Steve Boetto
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| Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:10 pm Post subject: obit |
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I agree, I was very annoyed by Chuck Yeager's comments. What a Jerk.
Steve B
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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: obit |
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I was very annoyed by Chuck Yeager's comments. What a Jerk.>>
Will somebody tell me what is going on please. I gather Scott Crossfield is
dead but know no more than that. I have been out of touch with TV and
newspapers for the last couple of weeks and in any case it probably wasn`t
covered by the British Press.
Please somebody...
Pat
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Steve Boetto
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:52 am Post subject: obit |
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Pat =20
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Took me awhile to find what I read. Draw your own conclusion.=20
This is from AOL News=20
I don't think Chuck ever got over Crossfield spankin him with Mach 2=20
Steve=20
do not archive=20
During the 1950s, Crossfield embodied what came to be called "the right=20
stuff," dueling the better-known Chuck Yeager for supremacy among America's=
Cold=20
War test pilots. Yeager broke the sound barrier in 1947; only weeks after=20
Crossfield reached Mach 2, or twice the speed of sound, Yeager outdid him.=20
Yeager, reached at his home in California, said he was "sure sorry to hear"=
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about Crossfield's death, but he wondered whether the pilot's penchant for=20
taking risks might have been his undoing.=20
Crossfield was flying "in very bad weather," Yeager noted.=20
During their days as test pilots, he said Crossfield "being a civilian, had=
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a lot more freedom than we did, as military guys. Sometimes he exceeded his=
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capability and got in trouble."=20
Asked for an example, the 83-year-old Yeager said: "Flying in weather that=20
he should have never been in."=20
The Cessna 210A in which Crossfield died was a puny flying machine compared=
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with the rocket-powered aircraft he flew as a test pilot. =20
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rsanoa
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: Bell Buckle,TN
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 7:12 am Post subject: obit |
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Yeager's comments don't really offend me. He seems to be giving an honest and unvarnished analysis. After all he is a professional test pilot used to giving reports in words not complicated by political correctness. Tell it like it is. The FAA final report will probably sound much like Yeagers.
Politically incorrect in Tenn.
UltraStar
Do not archive.
N27SB(at)aol.com wrote:
Pat =20
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Took me awhile to find what I read. Draw your own conclusion.=20
This is from AOL News=20
I don't think Chuck ever got over Crossfield spankin him with Mach 2=20
Steve=20
do not archive=20
During the 1950s, Crossfield embodied what came to be called "the right=20
stuff," dueling the better-known Chuck Yeager for supremacy among America's=
Cold=20
War test pilots. Yeager broke the sound barrier in 1947; only weeks after=20
Crossfield reached Mach 2, or twice the speed of sound, Yeager outdid him.=20
Yeager, reached at his home in California, said he was "sure sorry to hear"=
=20
about Crossfield's death, but he wondered whether the pilot's penchant for=20
taking risks might have been his undoing.=20
Crossfield was flying "in very bad weather," Yeager noted.=20
During their days as test pilots, he said Crossfield "being a civilian, had=
=20
a lot more freedom than we did, as military guys. Sometimes he exceeded his=
=20
capability and got in trouble."=20
Asked for an example, the 83-year-old Yeager said: "Flying in weather that=20
he should have never been in."=20
The Cessna 210A in which Crossfield died was a puny flying machine compared=
=20
with the rocket-powered aircraft he flew as a test pilot. =20
Most Popular Stories =20
* =B7 _Wal-Mart Evolves Into Big Political Issue_=20
(http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=3D20060423162109990003) =20
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(http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=3D20060423183309990005) =20
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(http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=3D20060423065009990002) =20
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(http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=3D20060423134509990005) =20
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Russ Kinne
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:21 pm Post subject: obit |
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Pat
I've been away 2 weex. Did you get info on Crossfield?
Best, rushed,
Russ
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: obit |
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Did you get info on Crossfield?
Hi Russ,
I have learned that he apparently broke up in a storm cell driving his
Spamcan. Still haven`t heard what Yeagers comment was that got everyone so
riled.
2 weeks away ? Nice delivery somewhere?
Cheers
Pat
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Ed in JXN
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:18 pm Post subject: obit |
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Pat/All,
Yeager alluded to the fact that Crossfield was always one to take
chances with weather, words to that effect anyway.
It was felt his comments were ill-timed and lacked any compassion
for those left behind. He could've kept his thoughts to himself, wouldn't
have seemed the heartless a$$ he now appears.
We have a local pilot (ex-mil & corporate) who knew them both,
thought the world of Crossfield. Won't comment on Yeager. 'Nuff said.
Ed in JXN
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John Hauck
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:40 pm Post subject: obit |
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| We have a local pilot (ex-mil & corporate) who knew them
both,
| thought the world of Crossfield. Won't comment on Yeager. 'Nuff
said.
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Ed/Gang:
Major difference between Crossfield and Yeager, although both were
test pilots. General Yeager flew fighters in three wars: WWII,
Korea, and VN. Crossfield was a civilian.
john h
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