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jack.lockamy(at)navy.mil
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 6:49 am Post subject: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/10/06

I think your statement would have been more correctly stated by saying...."you would be one of those "SMART builders"... by going with a Quickbuild rather than slow build...not an "inexperienced builder".



My RV-7A kit (#71103) was a quickbuild and was my third aircraft.  I'm no expert but I'm also not a novice.  I realized (as many others do) that going with a Quickbuild kit is the only way to go!  The cost difference in the big scheme of things (about $8K extra for my wings and fuselage) was actually well worth the extra money, saved lots of time at about $8 p/hr for foreign labor by my calculations).  I live alone and would have to have a buddy/friend stop by and help me shoot most of those rivets if going slow build.  The workmanship of the QB kits is amazing!  I nor any of my RV buddies could find a single rivet not driven properly (I can't say the same for those rivets I had to install .  I also agree with your statement that there is still a tremendous amount of work the builder will still have to complete (51%?) and as we all know, finishing is approx. 90% of the project.



Inexperienced builders go QB....no way!  Smart builders...YES!!!



My two cents,

Jack Lockamy

Camarillo, CA

RV-7A N174JL 180 hrs and FLYING!

www.jacklockamy.com



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frank.hinde(at)hp.com
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 7:18 am Post subject: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/10/06

Ya for me I would have to agree. My RV7a QB is my second airplane and I

am about 2/3rds the way through filling and sanding

fiberglass..Personally I am pretty sick of the whole thing and can't

wait for it to be finished. I miss my Wife and she is putting up with

this for now. I couldn't imagine having ANOTHER 1000 hours to do at this

point.



Having said that if I had an RV flying and I was in no hurry and didn't

mind tinkering on a project that was not taking up space that I needed

for anything else...The maybe (just maybe) I might put together a slow

build.



For me right now though I think this will be the last airplane I

build...Ask me again in 6 months...



Frank

STILL filling and sanding...Hoping to spray lots of paint this W/E



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wlull(at)cox.net
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 10:10 am Post subject: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/10/06

Yup, can't disagree.  I did slow build for the 'educational opportunity' but didn't realize it was going to be a doctorate degree!  My point was that even with a quick build we will have plenty of opportunity to make lots and lots of mistakes.



I really really enjoy the building process, but, wings are so borrrring. I would probably do a quick build too if I build another one.  Although those RV3s are really cute!



Bill



---- "Lockamy wrote: 

[quote] 

 

 I think your statement would have been more correctly stated by saying...."you would be one of those "SMART builders"... by going with a Quickbuild rather than slow build...not an "inexperienced builder".

 

 My RV-7A kit (#71103) was a quickbuild and was my third aircraft.  I'm no expert but I'm also not a novice.  I realized (as many others do) that going with a Quickbuild kit is the only way to go!  The cost difference in the big scheme of things (about $8K extra for my wings and fuselage) was actually well worth the extra money, saved lots of time at about $8 p/hr for foreign labor by my calculations).  I live alone and would have to have a buddy/friend stop by and help me shoot most of those rivets if going slow build.  The workmanship of the QB kits is amazing!  I nor any of my RV buddies could find a single rivet not driven properly (I can't say the same for those rivets I had to install .  I also agree with your statement that there is still a tremendous amount of work the builder will still have to complete (51%?) and as we all know, finishing is approx. 90% of the project.

 

 Inexperienced builders go QB....no way!  Smart builders...YES!!!

 

 My two cents,

 Jack Lockamy

 Camarillo, CA

 RV-7A N174JL 180 hrs and FLYING!

 www.jacklockamy.com

 

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dhall(at)donka.net
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/10/06

I'm an inexperienced builder doing a slow build.  I am on the fuse and for

me I know I'm glad I'm doing this versus the quickbuild.  I feel I will be

much more qualified to inspect and maintain this airplane through my

experience.  When I'm at the airport looking at flying RV's, I know I look

at every rivet now much differently than I did just 1 year ago.  I *do* have

much appreciation for how much work that QB does for you, but for me, I'm

glad I will know what to do when my fuel tank leaks.  I'm glad I will have

100% familiarity with every drawing in the plans.



Now if I should build another plane, I would likley do a quickbuild.  There

would be less to learn on a second effort.



All this started because of cost discussions.  I'd expect a real deal buying

an unfinished project like mine versus a QB, but I think this will be less

important for flying aircraft.  At that point, I think flying hours, finish,

and equipment would start to be more impactful to price.  (And I'll have

8-10K more in my pocket from which to negotiate.)  In general, I try to

avoid money logic when it comes to airplanes.  I'd rather keep my head in

the sand on that topic.



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 Don Hall                  

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 rv7 fuselage

 http:\\donka.net\rv7project.html

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