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1. 05:38 AM - [Aviatia.ro] =?us-ascii?Q?calare pe planoare in zbor? (releu3(at)seznam.cz (releu3(at)seznam.cz))
2. 12:14 PM - Re: [Aviatia.ro] tarife aterizare (Endre Lucian MOLNAR)
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________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 05:38:04 AM PST US
From: releu3(at)seznam.cz (releu3(at)seznam.cz)
Subject: [Aviatia.ro] =?us-ascii?Q?calare pe planoare in zbor?
Interesante poze...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265891/Hold-think-youre-
going-Skydiver-grabs-gliders-tail-fin-fly-2-100-metres-100mph.html
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 12:14:59 PM PST US
From: "Endre Lucian MOLNAR" <office(at)aeroclubuldrobeta.ro (office(at)aeroclubuldrobeta.ro)>
Subject: RE: [Aviatia.ro] tarife aterizare
Aviatia e scumpa si asa trebuie sa ramana.
....parerea mea  Endy
P.S. Aviatia este ca o femeie frumoasa care cheltuie mult...
Endre Lucian MOLNAR
Ion Luca Caragiale 39, cod 220019
Drobeta Turnu Severin, Mehedinti
ROMANIA
E-mail: <mailto:office(at)aeroclubuldrobeta.ro (office(at)aeroclubuldrobeta.ro)> office(at)aeroclubuldrobeta.ro (office(at)aeroclubuldrobeta.ro)
0040721323749
0040741559759
Fax 0040252206042
Web: <http://www.aeroclubuldrobeta.ro/> www.aeroclubuldrobeta.ro
Drobeta Aerodrome (picture preview at
<http://www.panoramio.com/photo/57310160>
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/57310160 )
Pista : 740x68 m - inierbata
Orientarea pistei : 10-28
Coordonate geografice: N44 34 52.6 E22 51 15.7
Elevatie : 358 m
Frecventa radio : 123.450 MHz
Aerodromes and airports in Romania:
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003f&msa=0&ll=44.629573,22.859802&spn=1.282245,2.90863>
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Airshows I organized yet
<http://romanian-spotters.forumer.ro/t5417-drobeta-fly-in-2011>
http://romanian-spotters.forumer.ro/t5417-drobeta-fly-in-2011
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a-dunarii-competitii-cu-aeronave-ulm>
http://romanian-spotters.forumer.ro/t4482-a-fost-drobeta-fly-in-2010-si-cupa
-dunarii-competitii-cu-aeronave-ulm
<http://romanian-spotters.forumer.ro/t1992-meeting-aviatic-la-drobeta-turnu-
severin-pe-28-iunie-2009>
http://romanian-spotters.forumer.ro/t1992-meeting-aviatic-la-drobeta-turnu-s
everin-pe-28-iunie-2009
From: aviatia(at)yahoogroups.com (aviatia(at)yahoogroups.com) [mailto:aviatia(at)yahoogroups.com (aviatia(at)yahoogroups.com)] On Behalf Of
Gica Pascariu
Sent: 1 septembrie 2011 15:37
Subject: Re: [Aviatia.ro] tarife aterizare
Numai ce am aterizat la bacau dupa un Zbor la Sibiu LRSB, unde am platit
cat la Tuzla, interesant nu?
Sunt convins ca cel care a facut factura la Tuzla a facut o greseala.
Regards
Gica Pascariu
Flight Design Romania
On 01.09.2011, at 15:14, Luciano Mihaita <luciano.mihaita(at)gmail.com (luciano.mihaita(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Perfect de acord cu ce ai spus Matteo... atat timp cat sunt singurii din
zona cu o infrastructura isi pot permite sa stabileasca ce pret vor ei...
daca ai observat omul i-a si spus "nu-ti convine pretul nostru? du-te si
aterizeaza la kogalniceanu"... scurt si clar, nu?  ))
Si atat timp cat nu o sa apara un concurent in zona este "ghischeftul"
lor... ia sa apara un teren concurent... se mai duce cineva la Tuzla? poate
dam o idee unui "intreprinzator"
On 31.08.2011 23:46, Daniel MATEI wrote:
Aaaaa, la Tuzla e parfum! Ieftin ca braga! Ia sa ai curiozitatea sa
aterizezi pe Tulcea! Acolo chiar te lasa aia in c.g. Am zb acolo in
primavara, ca pasager intr-un avion de 4 locuri, si am ramas cu un dezgust
teribil. La ULM au aceleasi tarife...
Si mie mi se par al naibii de trase de par tarifele de operare in Ro. Dar,
acuma pe bune, cand ai pe mana o mina de aur precum un aerodrom la mare
(unicul!) sau in buza Deltei (tot unic), n-ai exploata-o cat mai zdravan?
Cine vrea plateste, cine nu, nu zb acolo.
Chiar daca imi vine sa injur cand ma gandesc cat m-ar costa sa zb acolo, eu,
in locul lor, as face la fel. LA FEL! E un business, nu o opera
binefacere.... Stiti vorba aia ca nu e nebun cine cere...
Si, da, normal ca vor sa se imbogateasca (cred ca deja sunt si nu de curand
). Cine nu vrea? E vreunul caruia nu-i plac banii sau lucrurile minunate
care se pot face cu ei si nu fara eii? De exemplu aviatia/zborul?
Nici vorba sa iau apararea cuiva sau sa combat pe altcineva ci doar arat ca
asta e lumea in care traim si ca e cazul sa fim realisti. Sa nu ne facem
vise... Aviatia e un lux. Nici mie nu-mi place treaba asta cu tarifele
crunte, mi se pare de-a dreptul exorbitant, dar, in ograda lui, fiecare face
ce vrea si, in plus, nu suntem obligati sa mergem acolo. Moca sau almost
moca nu exista decat in socialism si, pana la urma, s-a ajuns la concluzia
ca, de fapt, era tot o tzeapa si ala
In addendum, cred ca trebuie spus si aceea ca monopolul naste preturi
monstruoase si politici de piata discretionare. Daca ar fi aparut un
aerodrom, sa zicem, la Mangalia, care ar fi practicat preturi la 1/2 si
incepea concurenta reala, sa vezi cum se ieftinea si Tuzla. Dar, in
conditiile in care ei sunt unicul frunizor de astfel de servicii, pe tot
litoralul, are cineva impresia ca se sinchisesc de sporovaiala noastra
marunta de aici? Are cineva impresia ca ulm-ul lui Gica sau Gica insusi sau
motodelta lui Matteo sau Matteo insusi, conteaza vreunul in politica asta?
Negativ, Sir!
Si, daca apare aerdromul concurent, ala eftin pt tot poporu', te poti trezi
ca Tuzla tripleaza tarifele si se declara aerodrom VIP si, pe fondul unor
aere maneloide si/sau al unor necesitati reale de exclusivism, discretie si
lux, barosanii plus guzganii vor zbura la Tuzla iar noi, plebea, la
concurentza sau asa-zisa concurenta. Pana la urma, acelasi patron, poate sa
tina Tuzla pt segmentul premium si sa mai faca o pista de 500x30 cu o baraca
jumulita si 2 butoaie de benzina cu pompa manuala, pentru plebe. Dar nu cred
ca acest efort renteaza pt ca sunt destul de putini ulemistii care zboara in
mod constant pe litoral. Cam cat de mult contam/atarnam noi in ponderea
veniturilor din taxe de operare pe orice aerodrom/aeroport adevarat? Cam
deloc, adica (virgula) chiar deloc. Deci cine sa se chinuie cu noi si pt ce?
Mai sunt si alte ratiuni: concurenta lesnicioasa, pt noi, in domeniul unor
operatiuni de lucru aerian nu e bine vazuta si sunt destul de multi
operatori "grei" care fac ce si cat pot ca sa ne tina departe (inclusiv
geografic) de lumea si clientela lor. Pe buna si corecta dreptate!
Pe Tuzla vezi, in mod curent, elicoptere de la Tiriac Air si diversi
super-mari si super-tari nababi si aia nu se sinchisesc de maruntisul cu
care noi ne facem un amarat de plin la zmeele noastre de 3 surcele. Are
cineva impresia cu un ULM, chiar de costa 100k Euro, reprezinta ceva in
aviatia de varf? Pt elitele banului gros chiar nu conteaza sumele de genul
asta. Cine e nebun sa lase tarifele mai jos in conditiile in care, fratilor,
LUMEA PLATESTE?!
E trist pt noi, astia mici, dar perfect functional si justificat pt
circumstantele si obiectivele respectivului business. Daca stam pe campuri,
e ieftin. Daca vrem printre baietii aia jmekeri, costa, tati
Atata vreme cat nu exista concurenta, nu visati la povesti cu zane bune pt
ca nu exista decat politica de pozitie exclusiva (nici macar dominanta nu
se poate numi) si e normal sa fie asa. La fel as face, nu glumesc!
Bafta,
Matteo
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From: Luciano Mihaita <mailto:luciano.mihaita(at)gmail.com (luciano.mihaita(at)gmail.com)>
<luciano.mihaita(at)gmail.com (luciano.mihaita(at)gmail.com)>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Aviatia.ro] tarife aterizare
Nu, pe bune acum, atatia bani doar pentru o aterizare? da' ce-i face frate,
mananca iarba de pe pista? bauturi incluse? ce consuma sau ce servicii
primeste ca sa justifice aceasta suma?
Multe aerodromuri private din tara nu percep nici o taxa, umul e binevenit
ca un oaspete... si chiar si acele aerodromuri au cheltuieli, paznici,
intretinere etc...
On 31.08.2011 12:39, mugurel toma wrote:
As intreba urmatoarele:
1 Daca ati consultat AIP RO anterior ref ore operare si tarife,
2 Daca operarea a fost in afara programului declarat si la sfarsit de
saptamana cu stationare atunci cred ca suma este explicabila, depinde de nr
de ore de stationare.
3.Nu ati specificat daca ati avut pasager sau nu.
Din cate imi aduc eu aminte, taxa de operare este de 4 euro/tona dar nu mai
putin de 8 si stationarea este de 0.15 euro/tona/ora cu primele trei ore
gratuite.Deci in conditii normale aveti de platit 9 euro /operare(diferenta
de 1 euro reprezinta serv de dispecerat resp informarea meteo inchidere fpl
etc) adica in jur de 40 RON intr-o zi normala pana la ora 16.00
Oricat am vrea sa fim de prietenosi nu putem sa tinem aerodromul deschis
gratis, dupa cum se stie este o societate comerciala .
4.Va rog deci sa detaliati pentru ce vi s-au cerut acesti bani,dupa cum am
vazut primele reactii sunt ca noi suntem pusi pe jecmanit lumea, ori
realitatea este exact opusa, operatorul Regional Air Serives subventioneaza
aerodromul.
5.De asemeni imi aduc aminte ca ati operat in numeroase alte ocazii la noi
presupun ca tarifele de operare va erau cunoscute oricum.De la autorizare
inscrierea in AIP Ro si pana azi Regional Air Services nu a operat nici o
modificare de tarif fiind cred singurul aerodrom care nu a majorat taxele de
operare in ultimii cinci sase ani.
Cu respect
Mugurel TOMA
From: Pascariu Gica <mailto:gica_pascariu(at)yahoo.com (gica_pascariu(at)yahoo.com)>
<gica_pascariu(at)yahoo.com (gica_pascariu(at)yahoo.com)>
<aviatia(at)yahoogroups.com (aviatia(at)yahoogroups.com)>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:38 AM
Subject: [Aviatia.ro] tarife aterizare
Buna ziua
Si pentru ca toata lumea sau ma rog aproape toata lumea zboara,amhotarat sa
fac o iesire la mare aa ca m am dus la Tuzla.
am aterizat cu ULM ul meu care nu cantareste mai mult de 470 kg,cand vine
omu direct la mine si mi baga sub nas o hartie cu plata,cat credeti? 220 sau
240 ron,extraordinar,deci atentie celor car vre o data vor sa mearga cu ulm
ul la Tuzla.
nu vreau sa intru mai mult in subiect insa in costul
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* Aviation-List.FAQ
- Latest version of the Aviation-List Frequently Asked Question
page (this document).
* Aviation-Archive.digest.complete
- Complete file with most of the email header info removed and
page breaks inserted between messages.
* Aviation-Archive.digest.vol-??
- Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections that
can more easily handled.
* Aviation-Archive.digest.complete.zip
- Same as the Aviation-Archive.digest.complete file above, but
in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
* Aviation-Archive.digest.complete.Z
- Same as the Aviation-Archive.digest.complete file above, but in
UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
Download Via FTP
----------------
The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com
in the "/pub/Archives" directory. It is updated daily and can be found in
a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.)
ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
Download Via Web
----------------
The archives are also available via a web listing. These can be found
toward the bottom of the following web page:
http://www.matronics.com/archives
******************************************
*** Complete List Web Archive Browsing ***
******************************************
All messages posted to the Aviation-List are also available using the
Email List Archive Browsing feature. With this utility, all messages
in the List are indexed, and individual sub-archives can be browsed.
http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-index.cgi?Aviation
*****************************************
**** High-Speed Archive Search Engine ***
*****************************************
You can use the custom, high-performance Matronics Email List Search Engine
to quickly locate and browse any messages that have been posted to the
List. The Engine allows the user to easily search any of the currently
available List archives.
http://www.matronics.com/search
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*** File and Photo Share ***
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With the Matronics Email List File and Photo Share you can share pictures
and other data with members of the List without having to forward a
copy of it to everyone. To share your Files and Photos, simply email
them to:
pictures(at)matronics.com (pictures(at)matronics.com)
!! ==> Please including the following information with each submission:
1) Email Lists that they are related to.
2) Your Full Name.
3) Your Email Address.
4) One line Subject description.
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic.
6-x) One-line Description of each photo or file
Prior to public availability of the files and photos, each will be scanned
for viruses. Please also note that the process of making the files and
photos available on the web site is a pseudo-manual process, and I try to
process them every few days.
Following the availability of the new Photoshare, an email message will be
sent to the Email Lists enumerated in 1) above indicating that the new
Share is available and what the direct URL to it is.
For a current list of available Photoshares, have a look at the Main
Index Page:
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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*** List Archive CDROM ***
**************************
A complete Matronics Email List Archive CD is available that contains
all of the archives since the beginning of each of the Lists. The archives
for all of the Lists are included on the CD along with a freeware search
engine written by a list member. The CD is burned the day you order it
and will contain archive received up to the last minute. They make
great gifts!
http://www.matronics.com/ArchiveCDROM
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*** List Support Contributions ***
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The Matronics Lists are run *completely* through the support of it members.
You won't find any PopUpAds, flashing Banner ads, or any other form of
annoying commercialism on either the Email Messages or the List web pages
associated with the Matronics Email Lists. Every year during November
I run a low-key, low-pressure "Fund Raiser" where, throughout the month,
I ask List members to make a Contribution in any amount with which they
are comfortable.
I will often offer free gifts with certain contribution levels during the
Fund Raiser to increase the participation. The gifts are usually donated
by companies that are themselves List members.
Your Contributions go directly to supporting the operation of the Lists
including the high-speed, business-class Internet connection, server
system hardware and software upgrades, and to partially offset the many
many hours I spend running, maintaining, upgrading, and developing the
variety of services found here.
Generally Contributions range from $20 to $100 and are completely voluntary
and non-compulsory. I ask only that if person enjoys the Lists and obtains
value from them, that they make a Contribution of equal magnitude.
Contributions are accepted throughout the year, and if you've just
subscribed, feel free to make a Contribution when you've settled in.
The website for making SSL Secure Contributions is listed below. There are
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If you enjoy and value the List, won't you make a Contribution today to
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Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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Aviation-List Usage Guidelines
******************************************************************************
The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Aviation-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Aviation-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Aviation-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Aviation-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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[This is an automated posting.]
do not archive
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 11:04:26 PM PST US
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Official Aviation-List Usage Guidelines
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Aviation-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Aviation-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Aviation-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
******************************************************************************
Aviation-List Usage Guidelines
******************************************************************************
The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Aviation-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Aviation-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Aviation-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Aviation-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
-------
[This is an automated posting.]
do not archive
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