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AZFlyer

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 89
Location: Prescott, AZ

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

Mike Miller/601XL-3300/Waiting for Kit #6195 (Feb.  delivery)

Rudder is built, sitting on hands-waiting.

 

Have searched old messages for info on how people get this 800# box  off the 

shipper's truck and into their shop.  All 8 reply's are from 2002,  so thought 

I'd ask again for any new feedback on this subject.  Shipper's  terminal's 

are 2 hours from me North or South, so I'm planning on them  bringing the kit to 

house.  They can back their truck up to my shop, but  how do I get box off 

truck?  

 

Having a truck with power lift adds another $95 to shipping  cost.  Fork lift 

runs about $150 for half day (delivery, rent, gas).   Don't have 10 

neighbors, (with good backs), within reasonable distance.  

 

Right now the best idea seems to be some type of ramp, strong  enough to 

carry the weight, down to a couple of furniture dollies...then  roll the box in.

 

I know most of you have dealt with this issue already...please  let me know 

your thoughts.

 

Thanks, Mike

p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:14 pm Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

Hi Mike,



'fraid a lift gate won't help - the crate is too big.



Some folks consider just shoving the box off the truck, but some 

others think this is extreme.   I went to the freight terminal with a 

U-haul and then pulled the crate off the U-haul with my little 

tractor (Kubota - small but a lot of heart and a three cylinder diesel engine).



I like your idea of a ramp of some sort, but that doesn't solve all 

the issues.  You still need to figure how to move the 800 pound box 

to the ramp and then from the ramp to your storage location.



I wonder if there are some equipment movers in your area.  They are 

experts on this sort of thing.



Good luck,



Paul

XL wings

do not archive

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		  Have searched old messages for info on how people get this 800# box  off the

shipper's truck and into their shop.  All 8 reply's are from 

2002,  so thought

I'd ask again for any new feedback on this subject.  Shipper's  terminal's

are 2 hours from me North or South, so I'm planning on 

them  bringing the kit to

house.  They can back their truck up to my shop, but  how do I get box off

truck?




	


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Paul Mulwitz

32013 NE Dial Road

Camas, WA 98607

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craig(at)craigandjean.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:28 pm Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

If you can get it off the truck then you can open the crate and while

inventorying it carry it in piece by piece. By the way, if you use a ramp

don't use dollies. I think you will need the friction to slow the crate

down.



-- Craig 



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pmoore505(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

I own a car trailer (which is plenty big - crate was 4' wide, 2' high, and

12' long and is also low to the ground) so I had the shipper load it onto

the trailer with their fork lift at their dock - covered by the initial

shipping cost. I simply unloaded it piece by piece as I inventoried it at my

shop and didn't have to deal with the intact crate, but figured I could have

done that easily by using the trailer ramps, a few pieces of 2x4's and a

come-along. Unload crate and repack at final destination is also an option

if keeping it stored in the crate is important.



Paul

XL - O200



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dougsire

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 37

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:55 pm Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

My kit should arrive late next month.   I was planning on renting a U-Haul

and picking it up from the freight terminal.   I'm assuming they will be

able to load it onto the U-Haul for me.   Then I'll just back up to my

garage and or storage unit, uncrate it in the U-Haul, and then remove and

store it piece by piece.



Doug Sire

601XL

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Doug Sire 601XL
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jhstarn(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:10 pm Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

Just .02 cents worth. back a pick up to within a coupla feet of the lift 

gate. Push the box onto the lift gate & into the bed of the pickup. Adjust 

as needed to have one end of the crate on the lift gate out of the truck) & 

the other in the pickup bed. Lower the gate, put crate onto the piano mover 

dollies (available at rental yards). Pull the truck away. 4 guys with pipes 

or wood supports lift up the pickup end, drive the pickup out & lower onto a 

second dolly. 800#, one end 400#, 4 guys 100# each. OR supply pizza & cokes 

for the local football team (see the coach, call the press, good PR for the 

school). Once its on the dollies you can push it anywhere. Make it a 

celebration & have local EAA Young Eagles Rep. on site. This is a great 

opportunity not a chore. Spread the joy, ....not a EAA member....you should 

be, find your local chapter.  KABONG Do Not Archive



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pmaxpmax(at)hotmail.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:02 pm Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

I had them deliver to the Roadway terminal and picked up the crates in my 

pickup truck.  then it was only about 2 feet off the floor.



Then again, I did component kits instead of the whole big thing in one 

crate.



Phil Maxson

601XL/Corvair

Northwest New Jersey

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		  From: MillrML(at)aol.com

Reply-To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:31:53 EST






Mike Miller/601XL-3300/Waiting for Kit #6195 (Feb.  delivery)

Rudder is built, sitting on hands-waiting.



Have searched old messages for info on how people get this 800# box  off 

the

shipper's truck and into their shop.  All 8 reply's are from 2002,  so 

thought

I'd ask again for any new feedback on this subject.  Shipper's  terminal's

are 2 hours from me North or South, so I'm planning on them  bringing the 

kit to

house.  They can back their truck up to my shop, but  how do I get box off

truck?

<<SNIP>>

bryanmmartin

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1018

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:18 pm Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

You could just drag the crate out the back of the truck until it balances on

the edge then lower the end down to the ground. Then drag it back until most

of it is off the truck. Put a couple bales of straw (or something similar)

under the raised end and drive the truck out from under it. The straw bales

will cushion the drop.



I bought the wings first and the fuselage later, so I had two smaller crates

to deal with. Two people could ease one of those crates off the truck

without too much trouble.

-- 

Bryan Martin

N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.

do not archive.

 



on 1/12/06 2:31 PM, MillrML(at)aol.com at MillrML(at)aol.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Mike Miller/601XL-3300/Waiting for Kit #6195 (Feb.  delivery)

 Rudder is built, sitting on hands-waiting.

 

 Have searched old messages for info on how people get this 800# box  off the

 shipper's truck and into their shop.  All 8 reply's are from 2002,  so thought

 I'd ask again for any new feedback on this subject.  Shipper's  terminal's

 are 2 hours from me North or South, so I'm planning on them  bringing the kit

 to 

 house.  They can back their truck up to my shop, but  how do I get box off

 truck?  

 

 Having a truck with power lift adds another $95 to shipping  cost.  Fork lift

 runs about $150 for half day (delivery, rent, gas).   Don't have 10

 neighbors, (with good backs), within reasonable distance.

 

 Right now the best idea seems to be some type of ramp, strong  enough to

 carry the weight, down to a couple of furniture dollies...then  roll the box

 in.

_________________
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Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
do not archive.

701stol(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

How about a local tilt back tow truck? They could pull the box gracefully

off of the carriers truck, reposition in front of your shop door, tilt the

deck and slide it onto your shop floor. I have a glass back, and have done

this successfully more than once. Just a thought...



Todd



DO NOT ARCHIVE.



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billn(at)velocity.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:15 pm Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

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jean-paul.roy4(at)tlb.sym
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:16 pm Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

You guys make me jealous. I wished I had this kind of concern about

receiving my big box.lolllll

but there is a start. Just got the confirmation my tail kit has been shipped

out today. Should be getting it sometime next week.



Have fun



Jean-Paul

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clojan(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

Mike: 2 guys in the truck and 2 on the ground. Piece by Piece will take you only about 15 min to unload and spread out on the floor. Inventory later. As a matter of fact I never did inventory and as it turned out everything was there. Still waiting for the FAA. jack in Los osos ca



MillrML(at)aol.com wrote:  



Mike Miller/601XL-3300/Waiting for Kit #6195 (Feb. delivery)

Rudder is built, sitting on hands-waiting.



Have searched old messages for info on how people get this 800# box off the 

shipper's truck and into their shop. All 8 reply's are from 2002, so thought 

I'd ask again for any new feedback on this subject. Shipper's terminal's 

are 2 hours from me North or South, so I'm planning on them bringing the kit to 

house. They can back their truck up to my shop, but how do I get box off 

truck? 



Having a truck with power lift adds another $95 to shipping cost. Fork lift 

runs about $150 for half day (delivery, rent, gas). Don't have 10 

neighbors, (with good backs), within reasonable distance. 



Right now the best idea seems to be some type of ramp, strong enough to 

carry the weight, down to a couple of furniture dollies...then roll the box in.



I know most of you have dealt with this issue already...please let me know 

your thoughts.



Thanks, Mike 



Jack Russell -Clovis CA

601 XL Jabiru 3300

 Progress update at:

http://www.geocities.com/clojan(at)sbcglobal.net/zodiacbarn.html

Crvsecretary(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

Hello Doug:

 

Before you commit to this plan, call the local terminal and make  absolutely 

sure the terminal has ground level or a "low dock" (18" - 24" as  opposed to 

standard truck dock of 48") available.  If you have to take  delivery from a 

standard dock there's a BIG DROP down to your typical U-Haul  truck deck or 

pickup truck.

 

Remember, this crate is VERY long and many terminals do NOT have  fork 

extensions to pick the crate from the short end.  That means some  creative loading 

techniques !!  Loading dock personnel are very helpful but  they care little 

as to what is inside that crate, be it lead or  eggs.

 

I took delivery of my wing kit (4' x 4' x 12' crate) at my  work.  I backed 

my pickup truck to the standard-height dock......but it had  an adjustable 

dockboard which brought it to within 6 inches of my tailgate  height.....and just 

slid it in.  Since the pickup only has a 6 foot bed, I  bought a load extender 

from Harbor Feright and it worked perfectly.  When I  got home I put a pair 

of 2 x 6 planks on the tailgate, removed the load  extender, and gently pulled 

the crate toward the planks.  I slipped 2  movers dollies under the crate once 

it got on the ground and all was  well.

 

I admit, I've moved machinery before and find this really easy - I  moved a 

South Bend lathe into my garage using the same techniques - by myself -  and 

all went well.

 

Go slow, and remember, gravity always wins !!

 

 

Tracy  Smith

Naugatuck, CT

601xl N458XL (reserved)

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In a message dated 1/12/2006 3:57:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,  dsire(at)imt.net 

writes:






My kit  should arrive late next month.   I was planning on renting a  U-Haul

and picking it up from the freight terminal.   I'm  assuming they will be

able to load it onto the U-Haul for me.    Then I'll just back up to my

garage and or storage unit, uncrate it in the  U-Haul, and then remove and

store it piece by piece.



Doug  Sire

601XL

shilocom(at)mcmsys.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

If you can get them to deliver it in a Straight Truck, you might find a

ditch and/or bank to back in or up to and then drag it out with something

like a PU or SUV,  Then unload pieces to where you can handle it with some

help from neighbors and/or a come-A-long.  Bob u.

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TH-SR

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 22
Location: WI

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:44 am Post subject: Re: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

How about a local tilt back tow truck? They could pull the box gracefully off of the carriers truck, reposition in front of your shop door, tilt the deck and slide it onto your shop floor. I have a glass back, and have done this successfully more than once. Just a thought...

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CH701

david_a_g_johnson(at)btin
Guest

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:54 am Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

I had the same problem - we live 'out in the sticks', so it was just my wife

and myself, with the help of the driver!



I invested in a garage crane - not expensive and I'll need it to install the

engine - and a handful of broom handles from the local hardware store - make

perfect (and cheap!) rollers.



The truck had a tail-hoist, so we rolled the box out until it was sticking

out beyond the edge of the hoist, hooked up the crane to support the end,

then rolled the box and cane back until the other end was supported by the

tail-hoist, then lowered both ends together.



After that it only needed the rollers and an appropriate amount of cussing

(not from me, of course!) and it was in the garage.



Incidentally, after removing the lid and inventorying the kit, I got 4

kitchen worktops 6ft X 2ft and fixed these upside down on the top of the

box - made a very solid workbench, with plenty of storage underneath.



Dave Johnson



Tail and wings signed off - working on the fuselage

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 >

 >Mike Miller/601XL-3300/Waiting for Kit #6195 (Feb.  delivery)

 >Rudder is built, sitting on hands-waiting.

 >

 >Have searched old messages for info on how people get this 800# box  off

 >the

 >shipper's truck and into their shop.  All 8 reply's are from 2002,  so

 >thought

 >I'd ask again for any new feedback on this subject.  Shipper's

terminal's
	


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		   >are 2 hours from me North or South, so I'm planning on them  bringing the

 >kit to

 >house.  They can back their truck up to my shop, but  how do I get box

off
	


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		   >truck?

 <<SNIP>>

n801za(at)hotmail.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:37 am Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

I suggest you just have the truck back a little ways into your garage or 

shop.  Push the crate back off the truck until it will tip down and touch 

the floor.  Drive the truck forward until most of the crate is off the 

truck, then block up the high end of the crate.  There should only be 400# 

of weight on the truck at that point.  Hold the crate from sliding and move 

the truck out.  A floor jack or 3 or 4 guys can take the weight off while 

you put smaller blocks under it.  Eventually it will be close enough to the 

floor that you can just set it down.



Jim Frisby

Alaska

TOMGILES(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:03 am Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

If you are close enough or plan some trips near the factory you can pick it  

up there.  I picked up my 601HDS in my Subaru stationwagon.  It took 3  trips 

but was no problem.  Saved shipping charges also.  Another  possibility would 

be to load it on a rental truck and drive home.  These  possibilities are 

distance dependent.

grantc(at)ca.inter.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

 	  Quote: 	
		   How about a local tilt back tow truck? They could pull the box gracefully

 off of the carriers truck, reposition in front of your shop door, tilt the

 deck and slide it onto your shop floor. I have a glass back, and have done

 this successfully more than once. Just a thought...


	


I've used this kind of tow truck several times to move the finished product

to the airport and back, and I agree that should work out well enough if you

get a knowledable, cooperative driver operating the tilt-bed and winch.



When I originally recieved my kit in the box, we picked it up in a 'cube

van' which has a bed height similar to a pickup truck - i.e. not too high.



I used the help of four or five friends, and some long 2by4s or 2by6s? to

slide the box off the truck onto the driveway.  This was the first time I'd

tried this technique and I was surprised how well it worked.  The 2by?s were

about 10 to 12 feet long.  They are inserted under the end of the crate and

then the crate is slid slowly along them until it gently 'overbalances' out

of the truck and tips down on the lumber.  The lumber bends significantly,

but controls the rate at which the crate tips over and then slides down to

the ground.  We mainly had to balance the crate as the boards all flex a

little unequally.



Once the weight of one end of the crate is on the ground, it was easy to

slide it the rest of the way out.  Then we used some steel pipes as rollers

to ease the crate into the garage, where I unloaded/inventoried, the

contents.



Your results may differ! 



All the best for whatever method you decide on,



-- 

Grant Corriveau

C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100

pstafford(at)attglobal.ne
Guest

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:21 am Post subject: Unloading Kit/Crate from shipper

Mike,



Paul is right, a lift gate won't work.  Get some 1/2" steel pipe and have

the freight company place the crate on 3 or 4 sections of pipe inside the

trailer using their fork lifts.  (I rented a low trailer from U-Haul - make

sure that you get one with a wide enough tailgate).  Secure the crate VERY

WELL to get it home.  Then using some more pipe rollers use 2x4's or some

other handy pry bars to roll it off of the trailer and maneuver it into

place.  This is how I did it, and it worked very well.  Make sure you get

credit for not using the lift gate, and having to pick up at their terminal!



Pat Stafford

601 XL Jabiru 3300 99% done!



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