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				Servus,
 was hat es denn mit dieser mail auf sich? Ist schon zwei mal gekommen.....
 
 Grûße,
  
 Armin
 
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      1. 05:47 AM - Re: FW: M 14 P  (A. Dennis Savarese)
      2. 06:50 AM - Re: Performance Charts CJ6a and Housai 6a  (mgdimarco)
      3. 07:28 AM - Re: Re: Performance Charts CJ6a and Housai 6a  (Brian Lloyd)
      4. 07:35 AM - Re: Re: Performance Charts CJ6a and Housai 6a  (George Coy)
      5. 09:26 AM - Snap rolls Yak 50   (gord)
      6. 09:41 AM - Re: Snap rolls Yak 50   (Bill Geipel)
      7. 10:39 AM - Re: Snap rolls Yak 50   (Roger Baker)
      8. 11:06 AM - Re: Snap rolls Yak 50   (gord)
      9. 11:23 AM - Re: Snap rolls Yak 50   (Genzlinger, Reade)
     10. 11:25 AM - Re: Snap rolls Yak 50   (Nigel Willson)
     11. 11:49 AM - Re: Snap rolls Yak 50   (gord)
     12. 03:15 PM - Re: Snap rolls Yak 50   (Herb Coussons)
     13. 03:59 PM - Re: Snap rolls Yak 50   (gord)
     14. 04:50 PM - Re: Performance Charts CJ6a and Housai 6a  (Adrian Coop Cooper)
     15. 06:16 PM - Re: Snap rolls Yak 50   (Herb Coussons)
     16. 08:21 PM - Re: g-meter for sale  (keithmckinley)
     17. 08:51 PM - Re: Snap rolls Yak 50  (barryhancock)
     18. 09:42 PM - Re: Re: Snap rolls Yak 50  (Roger Baker)
  
  
  
 ________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________
 Time: 05:47:34 AM PST US
 From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>
 Subject: Re: Yak-List: FW: M 14 P
 
 Chris,'
 You should contact Barrett Precision Engines in Tulsa, Oklahoma.  I 
 guarantee you they will have the answers you need.  918-835-1089.  
 Outstanding US overhaul shop.  They have developed and have running a 
 beautiful coil-over electronic ignition (one coil per spark plug) and 
 fuel injection setup for the M14.
 
 Most likely you will speak to Rhonda first.  Ask Rhonda if you can 
 discuss some technical stuff with either Monte Barrett or Allen 
 Barrett.  They will also have cylinders for exchange.  Rhonda's email 
 address is Rhonda(at)BPAENGINES.com.
 Dennis
 A. Dennis Savarese
 334-285-6263
 334-546-8182 (mobile)
 www.yak-52.com
 Skype - Yakguy1
 On 5/14/2012 4:58 PM, Chris Wise wrote:
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  G'Day All,
 
  Can I please have some input re Ivor's questions.
 
  I have done all of my valves, intake and exhaust and used some 
  grinding wheels (Dressed the angles with a diamond tip stone grinder 
  in the lathe. One hell of a mess) and made some various size mandrels 
  for both intake and exhaust to suite the slight differences of the guides.
 
  I found the exhaust seats to be extremely hard and went by the angles 
  in the manual.
 
  Hey Chris,
 
  Do you know or could you find out if anyone knows what the M14P's  
  factory exhaust valve face and exhaust valve seat angles should be ?
 
  Also, please ask if operators have had their exhaust valve seats 
  re-cut and if so, did they encounter difficulty cutting the seat due 
  to the hardness ?
 
  After hearing about your difficulties, I am contemplating making a 
  diamond impregnated dressing stone for this task.
 
  Any takers ?
 
  Is there an exchange service for overhauled cylinders ?
 
  I have a mate who requires 3 urgently. I guess when the leakage 
  exceeds the starting air flow, you have to either fit an electric 
  start or FIX the problem, eh ?
 
  Cheers,
 
  Ivor Paech LAME
 
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 ________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________
 Time: 06:50:53 AM PST US
 Subject: Yak-List: Re: Performance Charts CJ6a and Housai 6a
 From: "mgdimarco" <mgdimarco(at)yahoo.com>
 I guess I'll have to hunt for a digital engine analyzer. Right now I have a digital
 tach in one of the large holes (3.5"?). I'll bet I can use that space better.
 
 Suggestions?
 
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 Michael Di Marco
 China Blue
 
 mgdimarco(at)yahoo.com
 407-608-3290
 Read this topic online here:
 
 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373090#373090
 ________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________
 Time: 07:28:50 AM PST US
 Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Charts CJ6a and Housai 6a
 From: Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com>
 
 On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:48 AM, mgdimarco <mgdimarco(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  
  I guess I'll have to hunt for a digital engine analyzer. Right now I have
  a digital tach in one of the large holes (3.5"?). I'll bet I can use that
  space better.
 
  Suggestions?
 
 
 | 	  
 Michael, I did it old-school. I did a lot of cross-country flying in mine.
 Every cross-country flight was a test flight. (Only aerobatic and formation
 flights were not used for data collection although I did find that fuel
 usage tended to go up when flying on someone's wing.) I would use various
 altitudes and RPM settings. I always flew with the throttle wide open,
 accepting whatever MAP I got. (Because the engines use mechanical
 superchargers, reduced RPM reduces maximum available MAP.) In flight,
 calculate TAS. Then land, fill up, and use your E6B to calculate fuel burn.
 (Calibrate your ASI first. I can provide you with a spreadsheet that will
 let you determine TAS and winds aloft from three GPS ground track and GS
 readings. You work backward to CAS from that.)
 
 I did find that, by giving up about 10kts of TAS, I could often eliminate
 at least one fuel stop. That ends up saving a lot more time in a day than
 going 10 kts faster would make up for.
 
 BUT, if you have a good fuel-flow gauge, you can get your data almost
 immediately and then collect several data points per flight rather than
 just one.
 
 The problem with using the fuel specifics, i.e. g/hp*hr, is that they
 change with the operating point of the engine. Also hp output is not
 completely linear with changes in MAP and RPM. It is possible to model the
 hp output from MAP and RPM for a given mixture but it is just a lot easier
 to measure it and plot it against the actual performance of the airplane.
 So, you set the power to something you think reasonable, e.g. 2100 RPM,
 full-throttle, 9,500', mixture leaned for smooth running, and then see what
 you get. When you land you can find out what your actual fuel burn was.
 After all, knowing the hp output might be interesting but what most pilots
 really want to know is what the airplane will do at a given power setting.
 
 Oh, be sure to be consistent in the loading of the airplane even moving the
 CJ can affect the performance results.
 
 -- 
 Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
 3191 Western Dr.
 Cameron Park, CA 95682
 brian(at)lloyd.com
 +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
 +1.916.877.5067 (USA)
 
 ________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________
 Time: 07:35:03 AM PST US
 From: "George Coy" <george.coy(at)gmail.com>
 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Performance Charts CJ6a and Housai 6a
 I have the performance data on a Russian AI14RA. The Housai seems to be a
 License built AI14RA as far as I can tell. If you would lie the data, I will
 scan it and send it. 
 
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