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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:21 pm    Post subject: TIS Connect Select Reply with quote

From reading the Garmin GTX330 manual inside and out, it looks
as if when I want to display traffic on my Chelton system
that I might have to manually activate TIS by momentarily
taking pin 46 "TIS CONNECT SELECT" to ground. If I were
displaying traffic on a GNS480, this would be handled
by the GNS480 by that unit signalling the GTX330 to "log in"
to TIS. I'm assuming that since I'm using a special converter
to interface the GTX330 to my Chelton that this function is
something I have to do manually.

Is there anyone out there who can verify the operation of
that transponder using that signal?

Thanks in advance,
Tim

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: TIS Connect Select Reply with quote

I have a GTX330 interfaced to a GPS396, and wondered the same thing. Turns
out it works okay with the input left floating, despite what the pin
description says. The tech rep from Garmin knew only slightly more than
the manual, and advised me to "just try it".

BTW, the revision of 396 software that came out in December (2.80) is the
first one that actually worked to display traffic. Prior calls to Garmin
were useless, as they claimed that it worked fine, and I must have a wiring
problem. This is one wire, and pretty hard to do wrong. I wish they would
have just said it didn't function properly yet and they were working on
it. Would have saved a lot of anxiety about spending $2K extra on a
transponder.

Despite the six month wait, it does seem to work fine.

Stan

At 07:20 PM 1/12/2006 -0600, you wrote:
Quote:


From reading the Garmin GTX330 manual inside and out, it looks
as if when I want to display traffic on my Chelton system
that I might have to manually activate TIS by momentarily
taking pin 46 "TIS CONNECT SELECT" to ground. If I were
displaying traffic on a GNS480, this would be handled
by the GNS480 by that unit signalling the GTX330 to "log in"
to TIS. I'm assuming that since I'm using a special converter
to interface the GTX330 to my Chelton that this function is
something I have to do manually.

Is there anyone out there who can verify the operation of
that transponder using that signal?

Thanks in advance,
Tim

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: TIS Connect Select Reply with quote

Thanks for taking the time to reply so quick Stan, this kind
of info is really valuable and hard to find. Nothing on google
was helpful at all. So you're having good luck just letting
it float. I'll just leave mine that way for a while then
and see how that works, unless others come back with
some experience that showed they really needed to have it
connected. You are just what I was hoping to find though...
someone who actually used the TIS and hooked it up on
their own.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
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splevy(at)l-band-systems.com wrote:
Quote:


I have a GTX330 interfaced to a GPS396, and wondered the same thing. Turns
out it works okay with the input left floating, despite what the pin
description says. The tech rep from Garmin knew only slightly more than
the manual, and advised me to "just try it".

BTW, the revision of 396 software that came out in December (2.80) is the
first one that actually worked to display traffic. Prior calls to Garmin
were useless, as they claimed that it worked fine, and I must have a wiring
problem. This is one wire, and pretty hard to do wrong. I wish they would
have just said it didn't function properly yet and they were working on
it. Would have saved a lot of anxiety about spending $2K extra on a
transponder.

Despite the six month wait, it does seem to work fine.

Stan





At 07:20 PM 1/12/2006 -0600, you wrote:

>
>
> From reading the Garmin GTX330 manual inside and out, it looks
>as if when I want to display traffic on my Chelton system
>that I might have to manually activate TIS by momentarily
>taking pin 46 "TIS CONNECT SELECT" to ground. If I were
>displaying traffic on a GNS480, this would be handled
>by the GNS480 by that unit signalling the GTX330 to "log in"
>to TIS. I'm assuming that since I'm using a special converter
>to interface the GTX330 to my Chelton that this function is
>something I have to do manually.
>
>Is there anyone out there who can verify the operation of
>that transponder using that signal?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Tim
>
>do not archive
>

















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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:28 am    Post subject: TIS Connect Select Reply with quote

Guys, isn't the FAA phasing out TIS? Why bother?

Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying, F1 under const.

On 1/13/06, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com> wrote:
Quote:



Thanks for taking the time to reply so quick Stan, this kind
of info is really valuable and hard to find. Nothing on google
was helpful at all. So you're having good luck just letting
it float. I'll just leave mine that way for a while then
and see how that works, unless others come back with
some experience that showed they really needed to have it
connected. You are just what I was hoping to find though...
someone who actually used the TIS and hooked it up on
their own.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
splevy(at)l-band-systems.com wrote:
>
>
> I have a GTX330 interfaced to a GPS396, and wondered the same
thing. Turns
> out it works okay with the input left floating, despite what the pin
> description says. The tech rep from Garmin knew only slightly more than
> the manual, and advised me to "just try it".
>
> BTW, the revision of 396 software that came out in December (2.80) is
the
> first one that actually worked to display traffic. Prior calls to
Garmin
> were useless, as they claimed that it worked fine, and I must have a
wiring
> problem. This is one wire, and pretty hard to do wrong. I wish they
would
> have just said it didn't function properly yet and they were working on
> it. Would have saved a lot of anxiety about spending $2K extra on a
> transponder.
>
> Despite the six month wait, it does seem to work fine.
>
> Stan
>
>
>
>
>
> At 07:20 PM 1/12/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>
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>> From reading the Garmin GTX330 manual inside and out, it looks
>>as if when I want to display traffic on my Chelton system
>>that I might have to manually activate TIS by momentarily
>>taking pin 46 "TIS CONNECT SELECT" to ground. If I were
>>displaying traffic on a GNS480, this would be handled
>>by the GNS480 by that unit signalling the GTX330 to "log in"
>>to TIS. I'm assuming that since I'm using a special converter
>>to interface the GTX330 to my Chelton that this function is
>>something I have to do manually.
>>
>>Is there anyone out there who can verify the operation of
>>that transponder using that signal?
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>Tim
>>
>>do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:24 am    Post subject: TIS Connect Select Reply with quote

Yeah, they're phasing it out just like everything else
they phase out....it's the 10 year plan..or more.
The coverage is still pretty good on many of my routes
of flight, the cost is cheap enough to be nil in my situation,
and ADS-B although maybe preferable is still highly
expensive to add. So for the time being, this
is a very workable option. It should also be noted
that part of the phase out is that they're just not
adding the TIS option when they upgrade radar systems,
but if they ever change directions, it's only a software
add for them to put TIS somewhere. Haven't ever heard
of the US Gvt. changing directions before. Wink

So what's better, having TIS for a few years for
almost nothing, or having nothing for a few years
and then still getting a big bill to install it?

Tim
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Bob J wrote:
Quote:


Guys, isn't the FAA phasing out TIS? Why bother?

Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying, F1 under const.

On 1/13/06, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com> wrote:

>
>
>Thanks for taking the time to reply so quick Stan, this kind
>of info is really valuable and hard to find. Nothing on google
>was helpful at all. So you're having good luck just letting
>it float. I'll just leave mine that way for a while then
>and see how that works, unless others come back with
>some experience that showed they really needed to have it
>connected. You are just what I was hoping to find though...
>someone who actually used the TIS and hooked it up on
>their own.
>Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>splevy(at)l-band-systems.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>I have a GTX330 interfaced to a GPS396, and wondered the same
>
>thing. Turns
>
>>out it works okay with the input left floating, despite what the pin
>>description says. The tech rep from Garmin knew only slightly more than
>>the manual, and advised me to "just try it".
>>
>>BTW, the revision of 396 software that came out in December (2.80) is
>
>the
>
>>first one that actually worked to display traffic. Prior calls to
>
>Garmin
>
>>were useless, as they claimed that it worked fine, and I must have a
>
>wiring
>
>>problem. This is one wire, and pretty hard to do wrong. I wish they
>
>would
>
>>have just said it didn't function properly yet and they were working on
>>it. Would have saved a lot of anxiety about spending $2K extra on a
>>transponder.
>>
>>Despite the six month wait, it does seem to work fine.
>>
>>Stan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 07:20 PM 1/12/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From reading the Garmin GTX330 manual inside and out, it looks
>>>as if when I want to display traffic on my Chelton system
>>>that I might have to manually activate TIS by momentarily
>>>taking pin 46 "TIS CONNECT SELECT" to ground. If I were
>>>displaying traffic on a GNS480, this would be handled
>>>by the GNS480 by that unit signalling the GTX330 to "log in"
>>>to TIS. I'm assuming that since I'm using a special converter
>>>to interface the GTX330 to my Chelton that this function is
>>>something I have to do manually.
>>>
>>>Is there anyone out there who can verify the operation of
>>>that transponder using that signal?
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>Tim
>>>
>>>do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>>
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:28 am    Post subject: TIS Connect Select Reply with quote

Cause what is in place now for TIS works great.
By the time they phase this out we will have many years of decent
service for a low cost traffic solution in the cockpit.
Mike
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