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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:42 am    Post subject: Tyres for tri gear Reply with quote
Hi

Does anyone know the best tyres to use on the tri gear. The tyres I put on last time haven't lasted very well. I think they are Condors.

Thanks

Kevin Challis
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:20 am    Post subject: Tyres for tri gear Reply with quote
Kevin. I've used everything from the "el cheapo" to the most expensive
Michelins. They all last about the same, as far as tread wear is
concerned. I have the 6 ply Air Tracs on, now and they are doing fine...

Jeff - Baby Blue

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Hi

Does anyone know the best tyres to use on the tri gear. The tyres I put on last time haven't lasted very well. I think they are Condors.

Thanks

Kevin Challis
G ODJG



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:40 am    Post subject: Tyres for tri gear Reply with quote
Jeff

Thank you for the information.

Kevin
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On 28 Oct 2013, at 18:19, Jeff B <topglock(at)cox.net> wrote:



Kevin. I've used everything from the "el cheapo" to the most expensive Michelins. They all last about the same, as far as tread wear is concerned. I have the 6 ply Air Tracs on, now and they are doing fine...

Jeff - Baby Blue

> On 10/28/2013 11:39 AM, Kevin Challis wrote:
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> Hi
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> Does anyone know the best tyres to use on the tri gear. The tyres I put on last time haven't lasted very well. I think they are Condors.
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> Thanks
>
> Kevin Challis
> G ODJG






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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:52 am    Post subject: Tyres for tri gear Reply with quote
Kevin,

Our ship came with Condors and they lasted flat to the weave after less than
200 landing on hard strip. We changed to Air Trainer which went used conical
?? very fast (~100 landing). And now we have Air Trac for few landing... My
guess is: the cheaper are the best!

Max Cointe
mcointe(at)free.fr
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours

F-PLDJ Dyn’Aéro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] De la part de Jeff B
Envoyé : lundi 28 octobre 2013 19:20
Ŕ : europa-list(at)matronics.com
Objet : Re: Tyres for tri gear



Kevin. I've used everything from the "el cheapo" to the most expensive
Michelins. They all last about the same, as far as tread wear is concerned.
I have the 6 ply Air Tracs on, now and they are doing fine...

Jeff - Baby Blue

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Hi

Does anyone know the best tyres to use on the tri gear. The tyres I put on
last time haven't lasted very well. I think they are Condors.

Quote:

Thanks

Kevin Challis
G ODJG



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:28 am    Post subject: Tyres for tri gear Reply with quote
Quite apaart from tyre manufacturer, wheel alighmnet is important, if the wheels are toed in (or out) too much
tyre wear and rolling resistance will be excessive. Is your airplane easy to push around on tarmac? That's what you are

looking for.
Graham


From: Max Cointe (Free) <mcointe(at)free.fr>
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2013, 8:44
Subject: RE: Tyres for tri gear


--> Europa-List message posted by: "Max Cointe (Free)" <mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)>

Kevin,

Our ship came with Condors and they lasted flat to the weave after less than
200 landing on hard strip. We changed to Air Trainer which went used conical
?? very fast (~100 landing). And now we have Air Trac for few landing.. My
guess is: the cheaper are the best!

Max Cointe
mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours

F-PLDJ Dyn’Aéro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)] De la part de Jeff B
Envoyé : lundi 28 octobre 2013 19:20
Ă€ : europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Objet : Re: Tyres for tri gear

--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff B <topglock(at)cox.net (topglock(at)cox.net)>

Kevin. I've used everything from the "el cheapo" to the most expensive
Michelins. They all last about the same, as far as tread wear is concerned.
I have the 6 ply Air Tracs on, now and they are doing fine...

Jeff - Baby Blue

On 10/28/2013 11:39 AM, Kevin Challis wrote:
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin Challis
--> <kevinmarie(at)blueyonder.co.uk (kevinmarie(at)blueyonder.co.uk)>

Hi

Does anyone know the best tyres to use on the tri gear. The tyres I put on
last time haven't lasted very well. I think they are Condors.

Quote:

Thanks

Kevin Challis
G ODJG


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:41 am    Post subject: Tyres for tri gear Reply with quote
Hi Graham, I agree. F-PMLH is very easy to move on tarmac and nothing (known) has changed on main gear between Condors used flat and Air Trainer used conical…

Max  Cointe
mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours

F-PLDJ Dyn’Aéro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures


De : owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] De la part de GRAHAM SINGLETON
Envoyé : mardi 29 octobre 2013 10:28
Ă€ : europa-list(at)matronics.com
Objet : Re: Tyres for tri gear

Quite apaart from tyre manufacturer, wheel alighmnet is important, if the wheels are toed in (or out) too much
tyre wear and rolling resistance will be excessive. Is your airplane easy to push around on tarmac? That's what you are

looking for.
Graham



From: Max Cointe (Free) <mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)>
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2013, 8:44
Subject: RE: Tyres for tri gear
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Max Cointe (Free)" <mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)>

Kevin,

Our ship came with Condors and they lasted flat to the weave after less than
200 landing on hard strip. We changed to Air Trainer which went used conical
?? very fast (~100 landing). And now we have Air Trac for few landing... My
guess is: the cheaper are the best!

Max Cointe
mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours

F-PLDJ Dyn’Aéro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)] De la part de Jeff B
Envoyé : lundi 28 octobre 2013 19:20
Ă€ : europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Objet : Re: Tyres for tri gear

--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff B <topglock(at)cox.net (topglock(at)cox.net)>

Kevin.  I've used everything from the "el cheapo" to the most expensive
Michelins. They all last about the same, as far as tread wear is concerned.
I have the 6 ply Air Tracs on, now and they are doing fine...

Jeff - Baby Blue

On 10/28/2013 11:39 AM, Kevin Challis wrote:
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin Challis
--> <kevinmarie(at)blueyonder.co.uk (kevinmarie(at)blueyonder.co.uk)>

Hi

Does anyone know the best tyres to use on the tri gear. The tyres I put on
last time haven't lasted very well. I think they are Condors.

Quote:

Thanks

Kevin Challis
G ODJG


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:46 am    Post subject: Tyres for tri gear Reply with quote
Max

I have ordered a pair of cheap ones. I am glad it's not just me that's wearing them out quickly.

Thanks

Kevin
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On 29 Oct 2013, at 08:44, "Max Cointe (Free)" <mcointe(at)free.fr> wrote:



Kevin,

Our ship came with Condors and they lasted flat to the weave after less than
200 landing on hard strip. We changed to Air Trainer which went used conical
?? very fast (~100 landing). And now we have Air Trac for few landing... My
guess is: the cheaper are the best!

Max Cointe
mcointe(at)free.fr
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours

F-PLDJ Dyn’Aéro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures


-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] De la part de Jeff B
Envoyé : lundi 28 octobre 2013 19:20
Ă€ : europa-list(at)matronics.com
Objet : Re: Tyres for tri gear



Kevin. I've used everything from the "el cheapo" to the most expensive
Michelins. They all last about the same, as far as tread wear is concerned.
I have the 6 ply Air Tracs on, now and they are doing fine...

Jeff - Baby Blue

> On 10/28/2013 11:39 AM, Kevin Challis wrote:
>
> --> <kevinmarie(at)blueyonder.co.uk>
>
> Hi
>
> Does anyone know the best tyres to use on the tri gear. The tyres I put on
last time haven't lasted very well. I think they are Condors.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kevin Challis
> G ODJG
>
>
>
>
>
>
>












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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:47 am    Post subject: Tyres for tri gear Reply with quote
Graham
It rolls easy enough on concrete but it is both the outside edges of the tyres that are wearing.

Kevin

On 29 Oct 2013, at 09:28, GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com (grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com)> wrote:
[quote]Quite apaart from tyre manufacturer, wheel alighmnet is important, if the wheels are toed in (or out) too much
tyre wear and rolling resistance will be excessive. Is your airplane easy to push around on tarmac? That's what you are

looking for.
Graham


From: Max Cointe (Free) <mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)>
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2013, 8:44
Subject: RE: Tyres for tri gear


--> Europa-List message posted by: "Max Cointe (Free)" <mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)>

Kevin,

Our ship came with Condors and they lasted flat to the weave after less than
200 landing on hard strip. We changed to Air Trainer which went used conical
?? very fast (~100 landing). And now we have Air Trac for few landing... My
guess is: the cheaper are the best!

Max Cointe
mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours

F-PLDJ Dyn’Aéro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)] De la part de Jeff B
Envoyé : lundi 28 octobre 2013 19:20
Ă€ : europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Objet : Re: Tyres for tri gear

--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff B <topglock(at)cox.net (topglock(at)cox.net)>

Kevin. I've used everything from the "el cheapo" to the most expensive
Michelins. They all last about the same, as far as tread wear is concerned.
I have the 6 ply Air Tracs on, now and they are doing fine...

Jeff - Baby Blue

On 10/28/2013 11:39 AM, Kevin Challis wrote:
Quote:
--> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin Challis
--> <kevinmarie(at)blueyonder.co.uk (kevinmarie(at)blueyonder.co.uk)>

Hi

Does anyone know the best tyres to use on the tri gear. The tyres I put on
last time haven't lasted very well. I think they are Condors.

Quote:

Thanks

Kevin Challis
G ODJG


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:01 am    Post subject: Tyres for tri gear Reply with quote
Hi! Graham/all
Yes, the “toe in” issue is the key to most wear . I can vouch for mine to be precise BUT with no wings fitted, probably no engine fitted, certainly no fuel on board and the aircraft fuselage supported on slings from above, no pilot or passenger . So how in God’s name is the manual set up defined to be correct ?  Mine is certainly toed in too much, in that my winch to pull the aircraft backwards up the trailer ramps is seriously stressed .  I have recommended numerous builders when at the stage of setting theirs to reduce the toe in and so allow for real weighted circumstances. I even toyed with an idea of making the main gear legs adjustable to rotate on like a vernier type fitting , but ran out of motivation and funds.
I believe that I have Condor which are quite a square profile but the landing touch down is always on the outside of the tyres needing them changed round on half life.
If only the legs could be heated “cherry red” and twisted to reduce what I have it would be so easy ...........Don’t dare even go there!!
Regards
To all
 Bob H   G-PTAG

From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRAHAM SINGLETON
Sent: 29 October 2013 09:28
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Tyres for tri gear

Quite apaart from tyre manufacturer, wheel alighmnet is important, if the wheels are toed in (or out) too much
tyre wear and rolling resistance will be excessive. Is your airplane easy to push around on tarmac? That's what you are

looking for.
Graham



From: Max Cointe (Free) <mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)>
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2013, 8:44
Subject: RE: Tyres for tri gear
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Max Cointe (Free)" <mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)>

Kevin,

Our ship came with Condors and they lasted flat to the weave after less than
200 landing on hard strip. We changed to Air Trainer which went used conical
?? very fast (~100 landing). And now we have Air Trac for few landing... My
guess is: the cheaper are the best!

Max Cointe
mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours

F-PLDJ Dyn’Aéro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)] De la part de Jeff B
Envoyé : lundi 28 octobre 2013 19:20
Ă€ : europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Objet : Re: Tyres for tri gear

--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff B <topglock(at)cox.net (topglock(at)cox.net)>

Kevin.  I've used everything from the "el cheapo" to the most expensive
Michelins. They all last about the same, as far as tread wear is concerned.
I have the 6 ply Air Tracs on, now and they are doing fine...

Jeff - Baby Blue

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Hi

Does anyone know the best tyres to use on the tri gear. The tyres I put on
last time haven't lasted very well. I think they are Condors.

Quote:

Thanks

Kevin Challis
G ODJG


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