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Deems Davis
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 Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject: Aluminum body filler recommendations sought |
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After my misstep w/ Bondo in the interior of the cabin cover I'm gun shy
about approaching the topic of body filler, But......... due to my less
than perfect riveting technique, there are some places on the airframe
the I want to 'fill' and otherwise cosmetically doctor prior to
painting. So I'm looking for recommendations. What body fillers have
people used or are planning to use? And are they compatible w/ aluminum?
I'm assuming that most auto body fillers are designed for steel. I've
been using poly fibers Super-Fil on the Fiberglass/Epoxy parts, and the
can says that it can be applied to any surface, is this a suitable filler?
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
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speckter(at)comcast.net
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| Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject: Aluminum body filler recommendations sought |
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Go to your auto store and get EverCoat Metal Glaze. Don't let them talk you
into a substitute. It is a thin bondo like material that is catalized and
you can sand it in 2 hours with 125 grit and in 4 hours 180 grit. Works
great.
Now for the primer wars-- Since I am an old Glasair builder and liked the
smooth look, and since you have to fill the transition from the cabin top to
the edges, I decided to fill all my rivets for that go-fast look. I think
it produces a better looking airframe.
Hold the flame throwers here, to each his own.
Gary
40274
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ddddsp1(at)juno.com
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| Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:09 pm Post subject: Aluminum body filler recommendations sought |
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Deems,
I would use Super fill to get everything filled it you want to do...........then wait to acid etch and Alodine before you FINAL FILL with two part filler like EVERCOAT Metal Glaze or Glaze coat. Then Prime as most of these fillers are NOT waterproof and need the primer over them before final paint.
We did West System on everything then acid etch and alodine...........now we are finishing the fine lines/holes with Glaze coat. Most shops wanna use BONDO then finish with Metal glaze.....then prime for final paint. Bondo is fast and easy that is why they use it. I was amazed how much Epoxy we had to put on the top just forward of the windshield to get a nice CURVE ..........then ribs in that area tend to be flattened out a lot.
BTW.I will take a couple of those Lycoming Manuals..................
DEAN 40449
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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject: Aluminum body filler recommendations sought |
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I love this stuff. Strong, really light and goes on super smooth.
JOhn G.
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Subject: Aluminum body filler recommendations sought
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:24:36 -0700
After my misstep w/ Bondo in the interior of the cabin cover I'm gun shy
about approaching the topic of body filler, But......... due to my less
than perfect riveting technique, there are some places on the airframe the
I want to 'fill' and otherwise cosmetically doctor prior to painting. So
I'm looking for recommendations. What body fillers have people used or are
planning to use? And are they compatible w/ aluminum? I'm assuming that
most auto body fillers are designed for steel. I've been using poly fibers
Super-Fil on the Fiberglass/Epoxy parts, and the can says that it can be
applied to any surface, is this a suitable filler?
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
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capsteve
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 111
Location: NIAGARA FALLS NY
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| Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:53 pm Post subject: Aluminum body filler recommendations sought |
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Deems,
I’ve had great luck with each of the fillers below. They contain aluminum and sand easy. I used it for the aluminum, primarily to fill seams and hide rows of rivets for a smooth look on one my first planes. I haven’t noticed any cracking or shrinking yet. I’m thinkin’ the stuff expands and contracts at a rate closer to the base material….although I’ve been wrong before. Regardless, I plan to use a bunch of it on the 10 to cover my “beauty marks”..
Steve
40205
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The world's first aluminum filled repair compound. Preferred product for restoration work and classic car repairs. Excellent adhesion to metals or wood. Can be drilled and tapped. Prevents bleed-through and bleaching. Ideal for metal leveling and mending, rust repair, use over spot welds and as a finish or barrier coat over all types of fillers. Aluminum-filled, rustproof and waterproof body filler. Requires minimal shaping or grinding. Has the look and feel of lead. Includes All-Metal liquid reactor.
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